Can One Defy The 3abn Board & Get Away With It?, Linda, Tommy, Danny, & Brandy Options

[LadyTenor]

What lawsuit is this?! I keep hearing that folks are filing lawsuits! Where is it? What claim is it based on? Do folks know the penalties for filing lawsuits based on frivilous claims?!

It's times like these that almost want me to pursue a legal career again!

Well, Mr. Joy and Mr. Pickle will be looking for representation. Maybe you can offer them your assistance. As far as any suit is concerned, a little patience may be in order . . . but you won't be let down.

- FHB

I am not licensed in any state to offer representation, and I am not interested in licensing myself at this time. I am, however, fully educated in the law and have the degree. Please note my signature at the bottom of my posts.

Having said that, your post above still does not answer my questions.....

why are counties called "dark counties?" Only because we think that the adventist message hasn't been there? Are we arrogant enough to think that because we haven't been there that God hasn't?

ok... sorry back on topic....

I, too, am wondering why some counties are called "dark", but I do not want to jump to conclusions....

[YogusBearus]

why are counties called "dark counties?" Only because we think that the adventist message hasn't been there? Are we arrogant enough to think that because we haven't been there that God hasn't?

ok... sorry back on topic....

What a great point! That is exactly the meaning I recall as a kid. We really were/are a arrogant bunch.

On a side note, I do recall going out on many Saturday nights looking for those "dark" counties. We were pretty sure they were having some serious fun in those counties and wanted to see for ourselves.

-Yogi

[LadyTenor]

On a side note, I do recall going out on many Saturday nights looking for those "dark" counties. We were pretty sure they were having some serious fun in those counties and wanted to see for ourselves.

-Yogi

[Panama_Pete]

Well, Mr. Joy and Mr. Pickle will be looking for representation. Maybe you can offer them your assistance. As far as any suit is concerned, a little patience may be in order . . . but you won't be let down.
- FHB

Thanks for the April 1st, April Fools Day, joke.
This was the right day for it.

[Green Cochoa]

why are counties called "dark counties?" Only because we think that the adventist message hasn't been there? Are we arrogant enough to think that because we haven't been there that God hasn't?

ok... sorry back on topic....

Clay,

I think the best answer to that starts with why we talk about the "light of truth" and the "darkness of error or ignorance." Basically, it's a biblical principle. God is light (1 John 1:5).

Paul was so sent, according to his own words: "Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee, To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me." Acts 26:17-18

And Ellen White reiterated the concept:

Let Christian Families Enter Dark Counties.--God calls for Christian families to go into communities that are in darkness and error, and work wisely and perseveringly for the Master. To answer this call requires self-sacrifice. While many are waiting to have every obstacle removed, souls are dying without hope and without God in the world. Many, very many, for the sake of worldly advantage, for the sake of acquiring scientific knowledge, will venture into pestilential regions and endure hardship and privation. Where are those who are willing to do this for the sake of telling others of the Saviour? Where are the men and women who will move into regions that are in need of the gospel, that they may point those in darkness to the Redeemer? {AH 488.2}
If families would locate in the dark places of the earth, places where the people are enshrouded in spiritual gloom, and let the light of Christ's life shine out through them, a great work might be accomplished. Let them begin their work in a quiet, unobtrusive way, not drawing on the funds of the conference until the interest becomes so extensive that they cannot manage it without ministerial help. {AH 489.1}

It is just such a light that we are all called to be, "you in your corner, I in mine."

Greenie

Edit: I have seen just such "dark counties" on this earth, though some might better be termed "dark provinces." There are STILL entire provinces in Thailand, for example, with zero Adventist presence (e.g. no members, no church, no medical work, no school, no Christian radio or television coverage in the local language, etc.). I have been in villages where no one would have heard about the Christian God before. They certainly had not seen a real-live "foreigner" before--and they couldn't help staring.

This post has been edited by Green Cochoa: Apr 1 2007, 12:29 PM

[lookin4truth]

why are counties called "dark counties?" Only because we think that the adventist message hasn't been there? Are we arrogant enough to think that because we haven't been there that God hasn't?

ok... sorry back on topic....

Anywhere Jesus is not welcome is a dark place. Most the time the location of darkness is in the heart of the one who will not see the light.

Luk 1:77-79
(77) To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,
(78) Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby the dayspring from on high hath visited us,
(79) To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.

2Pe 1:18-21
(18) And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.
(19) We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
(20) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the Scripture is of any private interpretation.
(21) For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Col 1:12-13
(12) Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
(13) Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:


I thank my God, He has delivered me from Darkness, and given me His Light. Now He wants us to take His light to the DARK world.

Mat 5:14
(14) Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hid.

[mozart]

Great replies people, but how'd we get on this topic?

[Pickle]

why are counties called "dark counties?" Only because we think that the adventist message hasn't been there? Are we arrogant enough to think that because we haven't been there that God hasn't?

ok... sorry back on topic....

One could look at it this way: God never commissioned us to achieve a numbers goal, but He did give us a territory goal: Every nation, kindred, tongue, and people.

Further, in 9T 28, 29, it states that we are to raise up memorials in every city and village on the planet. And as 7T 105 and other passages make clear, what that means is that we are to raise up church buildings, school buildings, etc., physical structures that might be "humble in appearance" as memorials to the true Sabbath.

So a dark county could be considered a county that does not yet have a lighthouse serving as a memorial to the true Sabbath given by God in Eden. And without that sort of lighthouse, things aren't as bright as the Lord would have them be.

This post has been edited by Pickle: Apr 1 2007, 12:59 PM

[princessdi]

LT According to Bystander, wwjd, Lee, FHB, and Aletheia. Danny/3ABn are aupposed to be in the midst of suing Gailon Joy, Pickle, Sister(even though they dont' know who she is), and pretty much anybody(if I remember correctly they even threatened Kevin a time or two with civil action) who has had something negative to say about Danny, and therefore 3ABN, here at BSDA.

This is why they are not free to divulge any of the mountains of evidence they "have" which disproves and allegations here. So Lee wants us to tbe patient and rust her, bastion of turth that she is, that the lawsuit is coming and eeeeeeverything will come out then. and people will pay for crossing Danny and 3ABN, etc., etc., etc...........Got it?


Save3aBN.com,and anyother internet site.

What lawsuit is this?! I keep hearing that folks are filing lawsuits! Where is it? What claim is it based on? Do folks know the penalties for filing lawsuits based on frivilous claims?!

It's times like these that almost want me to pursue a legal career again!

[Pickle]

Don't forget when Task Force told Calvin that a lawsuit was coming his way too.

What a joke you are...Such PRIDE! It's oozing out of you! Now who's whinning? I will adhere to the "terms of service" when you do!
Sure remove my membership "Boss" that won't stop the lawsuit coming your direction!

And he ought to know, even if he doesn't. http://www.save3abn.com/danny-shelton-demi...-marriage-1.htm

This post has been edited by Pickle: Apr 1 2007, 01:25 PM

[PeacefulBe]

Great replies people, but how'd we get on this topic?

Mozart,

Brother Clay brought it up and it is a good one.

Greenie,

I wonder if the Advent Message has brought any light into Thompsonville, in Franklin County, Illinois? If not, how do you suppose that this community just outside the doors of 3abn would receive it?

Lee,

How close do you live to Thompsonville? How's that light shining these days?

[Clay]

It is arrogant for us to think that just because people haven't heard of seventh day adventists that they have not heard about Jesus.... in some of these so called "dark counties" there are baptists, methodists, etc who love the Lord and are in relationship with him... to suggest that they must become adventist to be "saved" is ummmm wrong........

[Pickle]

Of course you're right on that, Clay.

And if we had said that there were no Jews at the birth of Christ that were saved, that would be wrong too. There were Jews that were in relationship with God too.

But that doesn't mean that God's will was not for those Jews to have more light shine on their pathway.

Likewise, God wants those of all faiths to know more about Jesus, to know about the special day Jesus calls His day, to know about His soon, non-secret, catastrophic return, to know about His judgment now going on in His sanctuary in heaven, to know about how Babylon has fallen and how all His people must come out.

God has turned on special light in these last days for all His children to see, and He has commissioned a special people to shine that light.

And that is no more arrogant than the fact that God placed a special people in Canaan around 1400 BC in order to shine special light into the Gentile world, and prepare a people to accept Christ at His first coming.

[Clay]

Of course you're right on that, Clay.

And if we had said that there were no Jews at the birth of Christ that were saved, that would be wrong too. There were Jews that were in relationship with God too.

But that doesn't mean that God's will was not for those Jews to have more light shine on their pathway.

Likewise, God wants those of all faiths to know more about Jesus, to know about the special day Jesus calls His day, to know about His soon, non-secret, catastrophic return, to know about His judgment now going on in His sanctuary in heaven, to know about how Babylon has fallen and how all His people must come out.

God has turned on special light in these last days for all His children to see, and He has commissioned a special people to shine that light.

And that is no more arrogant than the fact that God placed a special people in Canaan around 1400 BC in order to shine special light into the Gentile world, and prepare a people to accept Christ at His first coming.

sabbath observance does not earn one brownie points and cannot save.... It is Jesus, and only Jesus.... not Jesus + the sabbath or Jesus + diet.... even though as adventists we seems to make it seem that the "pluses" are important....

God's light has remained the same.... It is Jesus, and only He who saves..... nothing more... nothing less....

[Pickle]

Of course, but saved from what? "Thou shalt call His name Jesus, for He shall save His people from their sins." And what is sin? "By the law is the knowledge of sin." Thus there is something missing whenever people aren't told that Jesus came to save them from their rebellious or ignorant refusal to abstain from their own work on His holy day.

We've been called to preach the Full Gospel.