Why Did Linda Buy The Pregnancy Test Kit?, Spin off from the “Thompson Respond to Abrahamsen” thread. Options

[missthg]

the dannyclones as you call them seem to have a lifetime perscription for stuck on stupid pills....

not necessarily.... if you understand the context then the behavior makes more sense..... this one incident while viewed as a stupid thing to do does NOT make one an adulterer... in spite of what the dannyclones may have been programmed to believe and defend vigorously.....

This post has been edited by missthg: Feb 26 2007, 09:49 AM

[LaurenceD]

Being new, I haven't read all the other threads that discuss this in detail, but if it's true that Linda committed "spiritual" adultry, well...what an opportunity for a hardliner to stone the woman, per John 8, Lev 20, and Deut 22. And of course the same would go for any married man that even looks at another woman admiringly.

The way Muslim's handle this type of thing, and the way God instructed Israel to deal with marriage problems (until Christ introduced the new way).

What are we to do with a lost sheep? Yell at it, give it three chances to want to do better, then kick it while it's down, or offer it some money to stay away. And don't think about what casused that sheep to became so scared and confused.

I kind of wonder if they both wanted out at this point. Things may not have been going very good anyway, and never is when God isn't in the marriage. This may have been the opportunity to jump, with every hard argument why.

[watchbird]

Being new, I haven't read all the other threads that discuss this in detail, but if it's true that Linda committed "spiritual" adultry, well...what an opportunity for a hardliner to stone the woman, per John 8, Lev 20, and Deut 22. And of course the same would go for any married man that even looks at another woman admiringly.

The way Muslim's handle this type of thing, and the way God instructed Israel to deal with marriage problems (until Christ introduced the new way).

What are we to do with a lost sheep? Yell at it, give it three chances to want to do better, then kick it while it's down, or offer it some money to stay away. And don't think about what casused that sheep to became so scared and confused.

I kind of wonder if they both wanted out at this point. Things may not have been going very good anyway, and never is when God isn't in the marriage. This may have been the opportunity to jump, with every hard argument why.

LaurenceD, as the name of this thread says... this one was a spinoff from another thread... and it was in that one where this subject had already been discussed and cussed and discussed again until it was warn to shreds. It would probably be much more helpful if additional comments on this topic would be mostly put on that other thread... unless Clay gets in a "bonding mode" and pastes the two together. (hint... hint...) And I've now bumped that one forward so reading from it will be easier to do.

Carry on......... ..............

[Bystander]

This email if it is true makes me sad. It shows the spirit of what Linda was trying to do and she knew the trouble, "rumors", it would bring. It does not sound like she was acting in a Christian way which is what her defenders say she has maintained taking the higher road in all of this. After reading this it is easy for me to now see how she could taunt Danny as has been posted by his defenders. It is all so sad to me that this seems to be her true character.

You have true insight, which is rare on this board. To act like that they had a "good laugh" together over this is absolutely ridiculous. I believe Richard S. said something to that affect. There is nothing funny if you believe your wife or husband is cheating on you. If you are sure in your own mind, and sure you are being lied to you are filled with hurt and pain. The relationship is already strained to the max, then you find a pregnancy test, knowing you have had a vasectomy years before. They had a good Laugh together about it? I think not. I doubt they were laughing about anything at this point in time, much less something like that. A joke? I don't think so.

[erik]

You have true insight, which is rare on this board. To act like that they had a "good laugh" together over this is absolutely ridiculous. I believe Richard S. said something to that affect. There is nothing funny if you believe your wife or husband is cheating on you. If you are sure in your own mind, and sure you are being lied to you are filled with hurt and pain. The relationship is already strained to the max, then you find a pregnancy test, knowing you have had a vasectomy years before. They had a good Laugh together about it? I think not. I doubt they were laughing about anything at this point in time, much less something like that. A joke? I don't think so.

bystander,

It was a poor joke and yes unchristlike, but it also happens to be about the only thing you have on linda.

I mean the PTK does not prove that she was having an affair, it is also clear from the letter that danny was already making wild charges against her.

So if you want to charge linda with playing a joke that was unwise and even unchristlike fine.

but at least admit that this "joke" was not done in vacuum, I the tone of the letter also said in a way that strongly suggests that no affair was on going, only the charges that one was.


So again i would say that you and danny should put out the proof of the affair and but an end to Linda's "lies"

erik

[Clay]

Here's some insight.... if all it takes is a pregnancy test kit for you to run off and get a divorce, you were looking for any excuse to get out of the marriage.....

Let's compare that with Joseph who found out that the person he was engaged to was pregnant and not by him....

nuff said.... how's that for insight....

[Bystander]

Here's some insight.... if all it takes is a pregnancy test kit for you to run off and get a divorce, you were looking for any excuse to get out of the marriage.....

Let's compare that with Joseph who found out that the person he was engaged to was pregnant and not by him....

nuff said.... how's that for insight....

Since nowhere has it been stated that anyone got a divorce due to the discovery of a pregnancy test, I would have to say that your "insight" is somewhat lacking once again. You need to be careful, you are starting to put the "pickle spin" on things.

[Clay]

Since nowhere has it been stated that anyone got a divorce due to the discovery of a pregnancy test, I would have to say that your "insight" is somewhat lacking once again. You need to be careful, you are starting to put the "pickle spin" on things.

thank you for your response... I disagree.... have a good day....

[Richard Sherwin]

Excellent point Clay.

Which brings up the fact that even if Linda was guilty of adultery, Danny, if he really loved her like he claimed, would have fought tooth and nail to preserve the union. Even if she had pressed him for a divorce he would have resisted, instead what happened? A quickie divorce in Guam.

Richard

Here's some insight.... if all it takes is a pregnancy test kit for you to run off and get a divorce, you were looking for any excuse to get out of the marriage.....

Let's compare that with Joseph who found out that the person he was engaged to was pregnant and not by him....

nuff said.... how's that for insight....

[Aletheia]

Linda's defenders have never claimed that she was perfect.

The central issues here, as we see them are:

1) Did Linda give Danny Biblical reasons to divorce her, as understood by the typical conservative SDA follower of 3-ABN? For that person, Biblical reasons are physical adultery. For us, that answer is "NO she did not."

2) The manner in which Danny and 3-ABN treated Linda following the divorce.

Folks, these two issues are still ongoing. They are the reasons that we are still at this point of impasse. If Danny and 3-ABN had simply allowed Linda to ride quietly off into the sunset, we would likely not be at the place where we are today.

It should be noted that is seems to me to be the goal of 3-ABN supporters to take the focus off of the central issues, and to focus on much more minor issues. Find some event in which one can charge that Linda responded in a less than perfect way. Place the focus on that, and people will either forget the main charges, or will doubt them.

That is exactly how lawyers conduct cross-examinations. They attempt to generate doubt in some minor issue in the testimony. By doing so they can transfer that doubt to the main issue even when they can not mount a challenge directly to it.

As to the pregnancy test: If Linda had it to do over again, if she could have foreseen the consequences, I do not believe that this would have developed as it has. All of us have probably, under great stress, done something that we later came to realize was dumb, and we really did not realize fully the consequences of our actions.
As has been pointed out there are several good reasons for the purchase of that pregnancy test:

1) It could have been for someone else.

2) People (Danny) who have been "fixed" do have the "fix" go bad and father children. Linda was still living with Danny at the time. She may have needed to check to see if Danny was on the way to becoming a Father.

After everything has been said. One still might say that Linda demonstrated her humanity, and her lack of perfection in the development of this issue. To that I will say: Focus on the central issues. Linda has never been claimed by us to be perfect.

Well it's not about being less then perfect, AFAIC it's a nasty cruel joke to play on your spouse.

Here's another question, if this letter is legit.

She'd talked to the Doctor about D.S. searching her car before, why???

How did she know that? Because D.S. found something in it? Like the nice watch the Doctor had given L.S.??


Somehow I don't believe either Linda or Danny were laughing...

The fact that she was laughing with the Doctor and her husband was the butt of the joke?

Sick...

[andithomas1]

Well it's not about being less then perfect, AFAIC it's a nasty cruel joke to play on your spouse.

Here's another question, if this letter is legit.

She'd talked to the Doctor about D.S. searching her car before, why???

How did she know that? Because D.S. found something in it? Like the nice watch the Doctor had given L.S.??
Somehow I don't believe either Linda or Danny were laughing...

The fact that she was laughing with the Doctor and her husband was the butt of the joke?

Sick...

Sick-No
Inappropriate-maybe
Having sex with minors-abominable

[gardener]

Having gone through a rather nasty divorce myself I can understand why Linda would have planted the preg test knowing that DS was pawing through all her things just looking for anything to back up his paranoid suspections. We don't always use the best descretion at times like those. Sometimes it turns into games of payback. Not always the smartest things to do but sometime irrisistable non the less.

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[erik]

Sick-No
Inappropriate-maybe
Having sex with minors-abominable

great points

[Clay]

Well it's not about being less then perfect, AFAIC it's a nasty cruel joke to play on your spouse.

Here's another question, if this letter is legit.

She'd talked to the Doctor about D.S. searching her car before, why???

How did she know that? Because D.S. found something in it? Like the nice watch the Doctor had given L.S.??
Somehow I don't believe either Linda or Danny were laughing...

The fact that she was laughing with the Doctor and her husband was the butt of the joke?

Sick...

thank you for your response... I disagree.... the fact remains while the prank might have been in poor taste it should not have been the catalyst for him to seek a divorce.... continue to spin it, but that is a basic fact.... have a nice day....

[PrincessDrRe]

not necessarily.... if you understand the context then the behavior makes more sense..... this one incident while viewed as a stupid thing to do does NOT make one an adulterer... in spite of what the dannyclones may have been programmed to believe and defend vigorously.....

....the fact remains while the prank might have been in poor taste it should not have been the catalyst for him to seek a divorce.... continue to spin it, but that is a basic fact.... have a nice day....

Dead on point....to which I place my "mini-skit" up yet again....

He (H) - You cheatin' on my gurl?

She (S) - No baby - you know I ain't cheatin on you....

H - Yeah, I think you are cheatin on me. Where you been all day?

S - I've been at work. I work from 8 am to 5pm...and It's only 5:06pm now....

H - What you been doing since 5pm?

S - You know what....I'mma admit it. I was cheatin' for 1 minutes. Although it takes me 5 minutes to get home, we did it in one minute, I sped home and yes. I'm cheatin on you.

H - I knew it!

S - You stupid!

H - I knew it. Guess what? I've been cheatin on you too?

S - I been known you were cheatin on me.....I just haven't been cheatin on you....

H - You jes admitted it!

S - Dummy! Can you add up time....only one person in the world can do something in one minute ....you.

H - Ohhhhh. Now you're jes being mean....

S - No! I'm being truthful....I wasn't cheating on you...but you jes proved my Momma right. You only go about repeatedly accusing when you know you're dirty yourself....

H - Huh?

S - Nevermind....I gotta go pack a bag...

H - Where you going?

S - Duh! Where are you going.....