Tommy Shelton Vindicated!, I hope. Options

[ida]

Come now, Bob; you know Cindy would never let anything so minor as factual truth get in the way of her grandstanding...

In His service,
Mr. J

[Aletheia]

Aletheia,

The letter Walt refers to as circulating is not the 1985 ordination suspension letter, but the 2003 Glenn Dryden letter.

The importance of Roger is that he nullifies Walt's statement about there not being other accounts. Danny certainly would have known about Roger in 2003 even though his letter was not written until a year or so later.

That was my point as Roger Clem letter " I am 32 now" was at the very least, 9 mos after WT inquiries...

Brad Dunning previously investigated and no charges. There was no other statement, no depositions, no charges from anyone else. And there still is none where Roger is concerned.

So you have alot of rumors about Duane Clem age 20 at the time, from way back when, and a Jan 20, 2007 statement from him.

And you have been accusing 3ABN of covering up Child molestation and protecting a Child Molester and of being deceitful.


Good luck with that...


edited for content....

This post has been edited by Clay: Feb 21 2007, 08:39 PM

[husbandoftheyear]

Danny, are you reading this? Do you want to be dragged onto Fox News?
How 'bout you step down and allow a free inquiry? What have you got to lose?

Control.

[Aletheia]

Danny certainly would have known because Roger came froward and started talking to people in Danny's own community. And Tommy found out quite quickly about it and called Roger.

On your save 3ABN site you have:
Letter from Glenn Dryden to Bob Pickle 2 Dec 2006

You may make public my 2003 letter to Dr. Thompson [May 14, 2003] and action items (which were compiled by the congregation of the Ezra Church of God) and may note that the action items were also sent to Mike Riva, Tommy's attorney, with my reply to his letter of June 13, 2003. You may note that I gave you my permission to do so.

In early 2003 Roger Clem first confided to me his victimization by Tommy Shelton. It was within a week or less that Tommy called me."



And as Tommy Shelton's letter which was just posted states, Dryden refused to talk to him about it, or hear what he had to say.

Carol says he wouldn't talk to her either...

Did you ever try to ask Tommy Shelton his side even once when you began this "investigation"?



This post has been edited by Aletheia: Feb 21 2007, 05:09 PM

[Whtz Happenin]

Good luck with that...

Are others learning to just scroll right on by anything Aletheia says? While I am scrolling I just hear a clanging cymbal. Maybe a little brass mixed in as well.

I am proud of the boys that are now standing up to show what Men do in order to protect others.

[Pickle]

My investigation was about Danny's handling of the matter rather than about Tommy, and thus I contacted Danny about the discrepancies in Walt's statement, as Walt requested me to do.

I have since contacted Tommy as well.

[awesumtenor]

Are others learning to just scroll right on by anything Aletheia says? While I am scrolling I just hear a clanging cymbal. Maybe a little brass mixed in as well.

Maybe she has spurs that jingle jangle jangle...

In His service,
Mr. J

[Lenni]

I myself have serious doubts about Duane's brothers accusations.

I'm curious Aletheia, what has Duane's brother ever done to convice you he is not trustworthy? He doesn't appear to be looking for his place in the spotlight. What would he possibly have to gain by making up such a lie as you appear to be accusing him of doing?

But regardless, that's all I am going to say................

Oh, if only that were true!

[wwjd]

Ok, one last question, perhaps I don't understand what your point has been all along in finding fault with W.T. and D.S..

In regards to you writing:

"Of course, Duane's statement doesn't contradict Walt's denial of other accounts. But Roger's does,

Thank you.

?

I have a few questions myself. Who contacted who first? did Duane contact Pickle or the other way around. If Pickle was the one to contact, who led him to Duane in the first place. We are talking about people in different parts of the country, in different denominations coming together. Same with Roger. If Pickle didn't know Roger until he received his letter, who approached Roger and told them about this "so called" investigation and that he should get a hold of the people in charge? Who told Pickle about Dryden in the first place? I have several points to this but I will just elaborate on one. Once Pickle was fed Dryden's name, he went digging for dirt. Pickle claims that things just weren't looking quite right and these "things" just sort of fell in his lap. Truth is he has blisters from all the digging and once he starts, it doesn't matter if he digs up error with truth or truth with error, whatever, he is going to give it his twist, his words (many times) and sensationalism.

Ok, one last question, perhaps I don't understand what your point has been all along in finding fault with W.T. and D.S..

In regards to you writing:

"Of course, Duane's statement doesn't contradict Walt's denial of other accounts. But Roger's does,

Thank you.

?

I have a few questions myself. Who contacted who first? did Duane contact Pickle or the other way around. If Pickle was the one to contact, who led him to Duane in the first place. We are talking about people in different parts of the country, in different denominations coming together. Same with Roger. If Pickle didn't know Roger until he received his letter, who approached Roger and told them about this "so called" investigation and that he should get a hold of the people in charge? Who told Pickle about Dryden in the first place? I have several points to this but I will just elaborate on one. Once Pickle was fed Dryden's name, he went digging for dirt. Pickle claims that things just weren't looking quite right and these "things" just sort of fell in his lap. Truth is he has blisters from all the digging and once he starts, it doesn't matter if he digs up error with truth or truth with error, whatever, he is going to give it his twist, his words (many times) and sensationalism.

[ex3ABNemployee]

?

I have a few questions myself. Who contacted who first? did Duane contact Pickle or the other way around. If Pickle was the one to contact, who led him to Duane in the first place.

If you had read what is posted on save3abn.com, you would know the answers to these questions.

[Richard Sherwin]

Bystander you can get blisters several ways, digging for dirt, digging for truth or shoveling out manure. Which one are you doing around here? Or is this just too obvious?

(On the other hand someone needs to clean the horse stalls, but maybe the 3abn volunteers do that)

?

I have a few questions myself. Who contacted who first? did Duane contact Pickle or the other way around. If Pickle was the one to contact, who led him to Duane in the first place. We are talking about people in different parts of the country, in different denominations coming together. Same with Roger. If Pickle didn't know Roger until he received his letter, who approached Roger and told them about this "so called" investigation and that he should get a hold of the people in charge? Who told Pickle about Dryden in the first place? I have several points to this but I will just elaborate on one. Once Pickle was fed Dryden's name, he went digging for dirt. Pickle claims that things just weren't looking quite right and these "things" just sort of fell in his lap. Truth is he has blisters from all the digging and once he starts, it doesn't matter if he digs up error with truth or truth with error, whatever, he is going to give it his twist, his words (many times) and sensationalism.
?

I have a few questions myself. Who contacted who first? did Duane contact Pickle or the other way around. If Pickle was the one to contact, who led him to Duane in the first place. We are talking about people in different parts of the country, in different denominations coming together. Same with Roger. If Pickle didn't know Roger until he received his letter, who approached Roger and told them about this "so called" investigation and that he should get a hold of the people in charge? Who told Pickle about Dryden in the first place? I have several points to this but I will just elaborate on one. Once Pickle was fed Dryden's name, he went digging for dirt. Pickle claims that things just weren't looking quite right and these "things" just sort of fell in his lap. Truth is he has blisters from all the digging and once he starts, it doesn't matter if he digs up error with truth or truth with error, whatever, he is going to give it his twist, his words (many times) and sensationalism.

This post has been edited by Richard Sherwin: Feb 22 2007, 07:00 AM

[inga]

Are others learning to just scroll right on by anything Aletheia says? While I am scrolling I just hear a clanging cymbal. Maybe a little brass mixed in as well.

I am proud of the boys that are now standing up to show what Men do in order to protect others.

Some of us can "scroll right on by" rather effortlessly because we have set her on "ignore" -- meaning we don't see her posts.

[Whtz Happenin]

? I have a few questions myself... ? I have a few questions myself...

Congratulations to wwJd (what wouldn't Jesus do)!

You have just earned the coveted "CLANGING CYMBAL" award.

I am proud of the boys that are now standing up to show what Men do in order to protect others.

[PrincessDrRe]

Are others learning to just scroll right on by anything Aletheia says? While I am scrolling I just hear a clanging cymbal. Maybe a little brass mixed in as well.

I am proud of the boys that are now standing up to show what Men do in order to protect others.

Maybe she has spurs that jingle jangle jangle...

...as she goes riding merrily along......

Some of us can "scroll right on by" rather effortlessly because we have set her on "ignore" -- meaning we don't see her posts.

Boomp/Mercilations/My LERD!

[Snoopy]

I happened across this MSNBC article today while catching up on the news...

Thought it had some relevance here....

Snoopy

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Southern Baptists Face Sex Abuse Allegations


WSMV-TV
10:30 a.m. CST February 23, 2007
NASHVILLE, Tenn. - The same sort of scandal that has plagued the Catholic Church may be hitting home for Southern Baptists. Video: Southern Baptists Investigated On Sexual Abuse Allegations

Concerns over sexual abuse and cover-ups are at the center of an investigation by victims? rights groups.

A letter authored by the group known as SNAP, the Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests and other Clergy, was sent to the leadership of the Southern Baptist Convention.

The letter urges Southern Baptist leaders to take action against sex abusers they said are lurking in the church.

SNAP says it was drawn to take action after following abuse cases within the Baptist faith.

"We know this is a problem not only in religion but in families. It's a problem because it's treated more as a shame than a crime," said Mike Coode of SNAP.

The Southern Baptist Convention is headquartered in Nashville.

Its leaders deplore all abuse and misconduct, but unlike the Catholic Church, it doesn't have the hierarchy to put specific rules in place.

"They've suggested a no tolerance policy be invoked. Really we believe that's stating the obvious. That would be like adopting a no-tolerance policy for embezzlement or pornography. That would be like lip service. We're not into window dressing," said August Boto of the Southern Baptist Convention.

Officials with the Southern Baptist Convention said their church isn't pristine and are demanding that local churches screen their employees and volunteers. They note its local pastors are the ones who need to be held accountable.

Members of SNAP had several meetings with the Southern Baptist Convention this week.

The Convention said it empathizes with the group but disagrees with their approach.