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husbandoftheyear
post Jan 17 2007, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(calvin @ Jan 16 2007, 09:16 PM) [snapback]170464[/snapback]

I can do it. I can put on some cowboy boots, a bright mock turtleneck and read from cue cards. The only problem I would have is devorcing Jean and marrying a spring chicken. yes.gif



Finally - a man who loves his wife! And here I thought I was the only one.

No spring chickens for me either! My wife become more beautiful every day!


(Yes, ladies, I'm a little mushy sometimes thankyou.gif )


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post Jan 17 2007, 10:28 PM
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That's why she dubbed you HOTY!!! clap.gif
QUOTE(husbandoftheyear @ Jan 17 2007, 08:25 PM) [snapback]170762[/snapback]

Finally - a man who loves his wife! And here I thought I was the only one.

No spring chickens for me either! My wife become more beautiful every day!
(Yes, ladies, I'm a little mushy sometimes thankyou.gif )



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post Jan 17 2007, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(princessdi @ Jan 17 2007, 11:28 PM) [snapback]170763[/snapback]

That's why she dubbed you HOTY!!! clap.gif



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post Jan 17 2007, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(husbandoftheyear @ Jan 16 2007, 08:57 PM) [snapback]170479[/snapback]

Couldn't 3ABN function under its board? I mean, that is what they are there for, right? dunno.gif


A board cannot do day to day operations because either all the board members would have to be there or they would have to be on a constant conference call. Have you seen the list of 3ABN board members and where they live? there has to be "in house" direction and decisions made by someone there...it is a fair question however.

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post Jan 17 2007, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(Joe Smith @ Jan 17 2007, 11:40 PM) [snapback]170767[/snapback]

A board cannot do day to day operations because either all the board members would have to be there or they would have to be on a constant conference call. Have you seen the list of 3ABN board members and where they live? there has to be "in house" direction and decisions made by someone there...it is a fair question however.

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Do you honestly think Dan is the one who does the "day to day" work? That's hilarious. Mollie has been running the place for years. Dan complicates matters more than helps.


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post Jan 17 2007, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE(PeacefullyBewildered @ Jan 16 2007, 11:58 PM) [snapback]170509[/snapback]

Calvin, seriously, you wouldn't have to change your clothes or your lovely wife. I think you'd be perfect for the position!!!
Joe, why don't you post the email and the other documentation you have found.


It was sent to me in a private email and I don't have the right to post it without permission. However I may be able to get permission, we'll see.

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QUOTE(husbandoftheyear @ Jan 17 2007, 10:43 PM) [snapback]170768[/snapback]

Do you honestly think Dan is the one who does the "day to day" work? That's hilarious. Mollie has been running the place for years. Dan complicates matters more than helps.


That's your version.... I've been in her office too many times when Danny/ and or Linda came in and gave her directions. I would venture to say that Linda would say that Mollie jumped when she barked at her at least that's my take on it... to each his own I guess.

PS. by the way.. who do you think trained Mollie? Danny and Linda

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Joe, I think the key words here are.........and Linda.......... dunno.gif
QUOTE(Joe Smith @ Jan 17 2007, 08:56 PM) [snapback]170769[/snapback]

That's your version.... I've been in her office too many times when Danny/ and or Linda came in and gave her directions. I would venture to say that Linda would say that Mollie jumped when she barked at her at least that's my take on it... to each his own I guess.

PS. by the way.. who do you think trained Mollie? Danny and Linda

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post Jan 17 2007, 11:05 PM
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PS. by the way.. who do you think trained Mollie? Danny and Linda

Joe



I believe you made another point for me...the one where I cringe to think of what happens when she has total control.






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post Jan 17 2007, 11:13 PM
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I believe you made another point for me...the one where I cringe to think of what happens when she has total control.


If she was primarily trained by Linda.... she should be OK to handle it now??
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post Jan 17 2007, 11:27 PM
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You did not make a mistake by calling me Mr. Pickle. I just jumped in to your comment towards him, so I stated I am not him, but addressing part of your comment.
As to what you said here, and I'm sure I won't be the only one addressing this, I will comment on your thinking, which I have colored in red.
Have you decided that God did it or Danny? I can't tell by your words...it seems somewhat worshipful of a man to me...
God can do anything in spite of a person. But, you are giving credit to Danny as if he got this done thru God. A man can be VERY determined to do anything he sets his mind to (and if you know DS, he is all about determination and not giving up when he wants something) and so based on his motives and minipulation tactics, he could very well get something accomplished like this. You're picture of how this happend has been given to you by DS as well. It is given to you, and others for the purpose of saying "God did this and used me" for credibility sake. You are looking to a man and assuming GOD did this. God may have made something good come from what DS set out to do for many reasons that could have been very selfishly motivated. I will not assume anything as you have - I certainly can not take DS word on how things came about as I know that he has exagerated and mislead in this area to give a picture he wanted out in order to gain support and to promote exactly what you have now projected. Again, do you really know his fruits? If you are to find out his fruits, as you willing to admit he is a mere man who is faulty and God used that building and those volunteers in spite of the man? This picture is much bigger then you would like to sum up in your mind. Why don't you let God show you exactly what He has done in spite of DS and his real motives. Don't be mesmerized by what you have been taught and lead to see. Open your eyes.


I don't think you understood what she was saying. She wasn't giving credit to Danny, her whole point was how God USED Danny to accomplish a HUGE job that the organized SDA church had not been able to do.... and not to this day as far as that goes. There are tooo many things that HAD to be "God things"... Linda used that phrase a lot in reference to these miracles for 20 years... So what changed? Are they not miracles any longer just because Linda is not there? Sorry, you can't change the past.

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Are they no longer miracles because Linda is not there now?

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post Jan 17 2007, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE(Joe Smith @ Jan 17 2007, 09:27 PM) [snapback]170774[/snapback]

I don't think you understood what she was saying. She wasn't giving credit to Danny, her whole point was how God USED Danny to accomplish a HUGE job that the organized SDA church had not been able to do.... and not to this day as far as that goes. There are tooo many things that HAD to be "God things"... Linda used that phrase a lot in reference to these miracles for 20 years... So what changed? Are they not miracles any longer just because Linda is not there? Sorry, you can't change the past.

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Are they no longer miracles because Linda is not there now?



Name the miracles.
God uses what He sees fit to use - if he can use a donkey, he can use anything or anyone. This does not mean however that Danny is special or unique (or anybody that wants all the credit for what "they" have done - like old Nebby, Danny resembles him). And it certainly gives him no right to claim he's a prophet or allow someone else to claim it for him.


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post Jan 17 2007, 11:46 PM
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I'd still like you to give a reply to my question. You have noticed that I am not the only one who would like you to answer.


Johann, are you saying that everything that is posted here about Danny and Linda is TRUE? surely you are not that gullible.... maybe it would be helpful for you to re-read or review everything posted, and then ask yourself................ could anybody be that bad??? wouldn't God have taken him out years ago? Did Danny just go bad about 2-3 years ago? the rest of the time, when you had faith in him.... and was employed by 3ABN... was he God's man then?? uhm.gif

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post Jan 17 2007, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE(Joe Smith @ Jan 17 2007, 09:46 PM) [snapback]170777[/snapback]

could anybody be that bad??? wouldn't God have taken him out years ago? Did Danny just go bad about 2-3 years ago? the rest of the time, when you had faith in him.... and was employed by 3ABN... was he God's man then?? uhm.gif

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QUOTE(Joe Smith @ Jan 16 2007, 07:34 PM) [snapback]170470[/snapback]

I would be interested in where that is posted on BSDA.... If anyone knows. I recieved an email from Mr. Joy denying any convictions on that charge... As I said, I have documentation saying he was found quilty. It is my understanding there is more than one charge. He may have been vindicated on some charges, but not on others. Observer, if you have the other side of the story, please tell me where I can find it.

Joe

This is a pretty provocative claim. That is why I encouraged you to post the email and documentation.

QUOTE(Joe Smith @ Jan 17 2007, 09:56 PM) [snapback]170769[/snapback]

It was sent to me in a private email and I don't have the right to post it without permission. However I may be able to get permission, we'll see.

Joe

That would be a wise idea for without your documentation, the claim you make in your previous post doesn't carry any strength, IMO.


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post Jan 18 2007, 12:34 AM
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Eye Witness,

You're not making sense.

First of all, Tommy's accusers claim that he puts on an act whenever these allegations surface, and so, if you are going to be objective, you have to keep the possibility open that Tommy isn't having much in the way of health problems at all.

Now if you can produce documentation that he has indeed had stints and such
, that would be most helpful. But we certainly can't just take Danny or Tommy's word for it since we have proven where they have been less than truthful.


Don't know if she has any proof... but I do ..Hope this helpful.

A few months after the death of Tommy’s mother….he had a Heart Attack while in Nashville. They were close..He was Transferred to Sentential Hospital in Nashville where he had a stint on his left main artery put in… and they used a balloon on another artery too close to the stint to unclog it. Pastor -------------- and 3 others were there for the procedure.
Around six weeks later, Tommy entered Fairfax County Hospital in Virginia for another heart cath and they did another balloon procedure because the earlier stint had collapsed. A couple of weeks later he was back because the incision became infected.
In 2003 he was hospitalized in St. Thomas where the heart specialist told him, he was hours away from another heart attack. He was sent straight to Nashville and had a team waiting on him when he arrived. This time it was the main right artery. He got another stint.
A few months after the Blackhills program, he went in again for another heart cath to make sure there were no more clots. There were none.
There are multitudes of people who know about his high blood pressure .....it is heredity. His father died of his 3rd heart attack at the age of 51.… most of Tommy’s brothers and sister also have HIGH blood pressure and high cholesterol and take medications for them.


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