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In most cases, when a person has been employed with an organization for 19 years or more, and a highly visible part of the organization, they are not sent off with a tersely worded "Statement Regarding Jane Doe."
Corporate America does not operate that way. Not ever. Official, Corporate Statements usually look something like this. (The following is a press release I wrote, myself. One like this should have gone out, instead of their Web-based, unsophisticated and unrefined statement.) -------- Three Angels Broadcasting Network, Inc. For Immediate Release, May 19, 2004 After nearly 20 years with Three Angels Broadcasting Network, Linda Shelton will be leaving to pursue other, important interests as a well-deserved break from her daily routine. Those of us here at the network will greatly miss the energy, drive, commitment, and dedication that Linda put into every project or assignment on which she worked. She will be greatly missed by both the staff and network viewers around the world who have grown to know her. We wish her the very best as she seeks new interests away from the network. Until her return, if ever, 3ABN will be in the capable hands of Danny Shelton, Mollie Steenson, Dee Hilderbrand, Robert Russell, Moses Primo, and the 3ABN team. ---30--- --------- Therefore, my point is that I really don't need to know the ins and outs of the Linda Shelton story to know that properly worded press releases are not tersely written "Statements." And they're not called "Statements." Unless you're under oath and testifying to Congress. Even a casual reader will see that this was not an appropriate way to terminate a long-term employee. It was embarrassing, humiliating, and degrading to the human spirit. It lacked basic compassion for the person involved and was not Christian in any sense of the word. I agree with Billy Graham on this point: You don't have to kill someone to commit murder. All you have to do is ruin their reputation and make them unusable for the task God has prepared them to do. Panama Pete |
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![]() 5,000 + posts ![]() Group: Administrator Posts: 11,157 Joined: 21-July 03 From: Northern California Member No.: 47 Gender: f ![]() |
QUOTE(Panama_Pete @ Aug 6 2004, 09:10 PM) In most cases, when a person has been employed with an organization for 19 years or more, and a highly visible part of the organization, they are not sent off with a tersely worded "Statement Regarding Jane Doe." ... Panama Pete Welcome Panama Pete, to BlackSDA!!! My name is Diane I am from Northern California(which is why I am still up). Continue to enjoy the site! now to the topic. You would send out a press release such as you have written, if you really felt that way. If you didn't want to hurt or embarrass or just out right destroy the person, but when is is your intention to hurt, embarrass ans destroy......then you have the situation we now see. -------------------- TTFN
Di And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose---Romans 8:28 A great many people believe they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.-- William James It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.- Mark Twain |
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I think before I can comment on this (which you all know that I am famous for), I should do some more research. I am upset that this individual would group everyone into this letter.
But as I said, I need to do some research. -------------------- "When Satan is knocking at your door, simply say,"Jesus, could you get that for me?"
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QUOTE(mema @ Aug 6 2004, 11:48 PM) I am upset that this individual would group everyone into this letter. But as I said, I need to do some research. I do not understand what you mean by "grouping everyone." Three Angels Broadcasting Network, Inc., is a corporate entity. It exists completely and separately, by itself, as an Illinois corporation. There is no "everyone." I'm also curious to know what kind of "research" you mean. Panama Pete |
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In most corporations the Prez is not married to the VP. Also, 3ABN is not a corporation. It is a non profit, self supporting christian organization and ministry. Big difference.
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QUOTE(kountzer @ Aug 7 2004, 04:35 AM) In most corporations the Prez is not married to the VP. Also, 3ABN is not a corporation. It is a non profit, self supporting christian organization and ministry. Big difference. DB When you step inside the front door of 3ABN, you'll see a plaque on the wall from the local Chamber of Commerce with the name "Three Angels Broadcasting Network, Inc." engraved on it. It's a corporation. That's what the "inc" means. Non-profit status simply refers to its 501 C (3) identity with the Internal Revenue Service. Secondly, it's a media corporation, as is the Washington Post, which also owns Newsweek and Cable One. Katherine Meyer Graham took over the presidency of the Washington Post empire when her husband, Phil Graham, died. So, husbands and wives have been involved in the media in the past, and they will continue to be involved in the media in the future. Other examples of husbands and wives are: Paul and Jan Crouch, Trinity Broadcasting Network Marcus and Joni Lamb, Daystar Television Network Garth and Tina Coonce, TCT Christian And syndicated media: Jack and Rexella Van Impe: "Jack Van Impe Presents" James and Betty Robison: "Life Outreach International" Dave and Joyce Meyer: "Joyce Meyer Ministries" Creflo and Taffy Dollar: "World Changers Ministry" James and Shirley Dobson: "Focus on the Family" And of course - last, but certainly not least: Curtis and Paula Eakins: "Health Seminars, Unlimited, Inc." |
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![]() 5,000 + posts ![]() Group: Administrator Posts: 19,863 Joined: 20-July 03 From: Alabama Member No.: 4 Gender: m ![]() |
Welcome Panama Pete.... enjoyed your contributions so far and I agree with your positon.....
Mema there is more than enough info on this site and another site (that I posted a link to in the other 3ABN thread) that you can get an idea of the mess that transpired.... -------------------- "you are as sick as your secrets...." -quote from Celebrity Rehab-
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Panama Pete you are correct. And thanks for these knowledgeable posts. This is what BSDA is about. That was a great simulated Press Release. You clearly must work in the industry. it's a pity that because of your association with BlackSDA you may not get that job at 3ABN.
![]() ![]() QUOTE(Panama_Pete) Curtis and Paula Eakins: "Health Seminars, Unlimited, Inc." I love that show on 3ABN. They are so natural together on TV in the kitchen. None of the phony public displays of affection "some others" on 3ABN were parading which always made me suspicious that all was not well. And their recipes include stuff Black folk can actually eat! I always wondered if they were related to our boss on BlackSDA. -------------------- Trevor Ducreay
---------------------------------------------------- 1 Peter 4:11 "If any man speaks, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man ministers, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth" "If my heart condemns me, God is greater than my heart." [Para 1 Jn 3:20] "But none of these things move me" [Acts 20:24] |
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QUOTE(tarduke @ Aug 7 2004, 01:41 PM) QUOTE(Panama_Pete) Curtis and Paula Eakins: "Health Seminars, Unlimited, Inc." I love that show on 3ABN. . . .And their recipes include stuff Black folk can actually eat! I always wondered if they were related to our boss on BlackSDA. Yep, since you ask, they are related. Calvin and Curtis are brothers. |
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Panama Pete, I agree with you immensely. Because case in point happened recently with a telecom company here. The CEO was removed ( private word is for questionable reasons) but the press release made out that he was getting a promotion.
Are the non-christian corporate entities more compassionate in their relation to others than us SDAs? And although I have seen correspondence from Linda Shelton to the effect that she and Danny are divorced, he continues on 3ABN as if nothing has happened. What example are we setting to others? Are we SDAs for real? Did these 3ABN actions really represent the creator? And if not, isn't a public apology in order? Thank you Panama Pete for showing that there is a better way. |
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You all, Blacksda must be DA BOMB indeed! You all have gotten a good mention on this site. Check it out!
http://www.clubadventist.com/ubbthreads/sh...vc=1&PHPSESSID= Looks like more people are looking forward to some godly closure on this issue. |
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You know what we say about conversations of this sought in TrinBago?
Awl yuh like tuh much comess! |
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Nogossip,
THIS IS THE FIRST PART OF IT: I CANNOT vouch for the letter other than it was posted on another forum (you all have the address cause I posted it...), and I wanted to share it here..... eyeopening...... posted July 29, 2004 09:33 Message What happened at 3ABN? THE STORY OF LINDA SHELTON By Johann Thorvaldsson Former 3ABN liaison for Europe It is a fact that Linda Shelton has been fired - and Danny Shelton has told his version of events to the World audience. He warned us not to listen to rumors, so what are the facts of this heart-breaking experience? Unfortunately Linda Shelton has been judged and dismissed from the establishment she loved and helped build up - on the basis of rumors. Facts that have been twisted, embroidered and presented as real. This is quite a complicated matter. A few weeks ago I was in Southern Illinois, wanting to attend the camp meeting at 3ABN, together with a Norwegian medical doctor - the one Linda has been accused of committing spiritual adultery with. We went there in an attempt to clear up misunderstandings, all caused because my wife and I introduced this doctor to Danny and Linda Shelton. This doctor is also the head elder of the most flourishing conservative SDA church in Norway - and has for several years been a financial supporter of 3ABN. Some of the problems were caused because the 3ABN archives had misspelled the name of this supporter, so Danny was convinced he was an impostor. Later Danny has named him a devil, a demon, or evil spirit, or bad counselor - like he did during the transmission to the whole world on Thursday evening at Camp Meeting. Also during that meeting we were requested to leave the premises of 3ABN, and if we ever showed up again at the meetings the police would be requested to remove us as trespassing private property - and this at meetings where all are invited. What is our crime? While my wife, Irmgard, and I were staying at 3ABN in December 2003, this doctor came to visit us, both to check Irmgard's illness and to see the studios of the ministry he was supporting and was a great fan of. Linda came to see us, and later she brought her son along, who had problems with drugs and related things. Nathan had been reluctant to see any other doctor, but a lasting friendship between the doctor and this young man was kindled. Many of his patients are young athletes, so he is used todealing with young people. The doctor invited Nathan to come and stay in Norway and receive treatments at his clinic for a month. Nathan brought his girlfriend along, and later Linda and Brenda Walsh spent 3 days there to check on things - and I had a visit with them too while they were there. At that time Nathan had merely been there for 10 days, and I did not recognize him when I saw him. He was a completely transformed person. So after Linda returned to the States she'd call to find out how it was going with her son. Danny told me himself that he considered that if a married woman talks for more than 10 or 12 minutes with another man on the phone she'd be committing spiritual adultery - so these phone calls first branded Linda as an adulteress. And from there the ball has kept rolling with more and more accusations. Mark Finlay was willing to assist in coming to an understanding, but his offer was unacceptable to the 3ABN lawyer. Both the lawyer and the pastor urged me to stay out of this case and not support Linda. They claimed I'd soon be left out in the cold with no friends at all if I'd continue supporting Linda in her plight. Can you imagine our Lord Jesus Christ telling me not to come to the aid of this frail woman because I'd be left out in the cold without friends? I have never heard such a statement before coming from people who are supposed to be the spiritual leaders of this great ministry. Is it any wonder that the support of 3ABN is dwindling? With such men at the helm who make it their business and main concern to condemn Linda, is it any wonder that Linda seeks the support of her close friends - and also calls the doctor who was so kind to her son? Of course it might have avoided some misunderstandings and confusions if that doctor had been a woman. But what does the Apostle tell us? "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." Those two people have been branded before the whole world as adulterers, and you name it. I never dreamt such atrocities could take place at my favorite ministry, 3ABN Now the woes of Linda Shelton are not hers alone any more. I was fired too, because I supported Linda. Officially it was because I refused to obey orders from my superiors at 3ABN. But I am fortunate that I get my sustentation from the church where I started my ministry more than 50 years ago. Even though I love the ministry of 3ABN, I serve the God of heaven and the God of Truth. Derrell Mundall, the father of Danny Shelton's grandchildren, who has served 3ABN faithfully for many years, has also been fired. What is his crime? He was too close and he knows the truth, and shared his knowledge with others. He supports Linda. He had no other employment when he was dismissed from 3ABN, so pray that he may soon find another fruitful ministry where he can use his talents. He chose truth instead of a steady employment, as so many other believers have done in the past. Before Derrell was fired he was told that he must remember it was Danny who received the vision from God to build this TV station. Therefore, he was told, he must regard the words of Danny Shelton as being the words of God. Long before Linda's dismissal, Dr. Kay Kuzma was assigned to help Linda manage after being fired. She was also supposed to interview staff members to find a good reason to fire her, so one wonders what really is behind this upheaval? Danny mentioned a number of counselors who had helped the board come to the conclusion that she should be dismissed. You can ask Linda, but I don't think she ever talked to most of those counselors. In fact even before her dismissal she felt treated like a criminal when she approached the premises of 3ABN and was not permitted to enter without close supervision. The present general staff at 3ABN is probably not permitted to ask Linda any question. If anyone wants a contact to keep up their close friendship with Linda they have to write their note on a postcard, submit it to the leaders who will forward it to Linda. Such are the present premises of this woman whose ministry has meant so much to thousands of viewers, and who will not see her any more on the screen - as long as the present leadership has it their way. Pray for 3ABN. Pray for justice. Pray for justice also for Linda. Miracles still take place. Christian regards -------------------- Steve Claborn (Clay) "Where there is life, there is hope....." -------------------- "When Satan is knocking at your door, simply say,"Jesus, could you get that for me?"
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QUOTE BTW, for all you White folks lurking out there, the reference is to the movie “How Stella Got Her Grove Back”. You would have had to seen or heard of the movie to appreciate the humor. From a lurking white folk. ![]() ![]() -------------------- Commit to the Lord whatever you do and your plans will succeed.
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QUOTE(Amelia @ Aug 8 2004, 05:48 PM) From a lurking white folk. ![]() ![]() How did 3ABN get to this point is my question? -------------------- "you are as sick as your secrets...." -quote from Celebrity Rehab-
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