Hi From Barbara Kerr In Norway, A love letter to all Options

[Barbara Kerr]

You said "Now 3abn is being accused of breaking in...why...because Linda said it. Linda said there was a break in...Linda said only 3abn stuff was taken....Linda said her email was tapped (whatever that means)" Someone ELSE saying that a car was broken into is not "backing up" all of that.

So this is it people? Just a bunch of arguing over Linda's house being broken into? You have missed the forest because of a couple of trees? Are you all so blind that you can't see the real issue here? It took me DAYS to gather the courage to share my heart and make my life vulnerable for everyone to see, but God said, DO IT! So I did. There are thousands of people out there hurting that need ministered to, they NEED this health information. Are you even excited about it??

I'm so excited I could burst! The house being broken into has been taken care of, it's been reported to the police months ago, security has been increased, Linda was shaken -- but she's fine now. I don't know if Darrell reported his car break in, I don't think so, but it DOESN't matter. It's NOT the issue. I will not discuss the forged document and I will not supply information about it. Linda is handling it.

If you all want to discuss health issues or write letters that have an uplifting content, please feel free to respond to this message. But if you are only filled with hatred, frustration and are argumentative, please, I implore you to keep your comments to yourself.

If I sound a little hurt and frustrated it's because I am! I feel like I walked onto a 6th grade play ground today where all the kids were fighting with each other. I'm lonely over here, . . . and I've been fighting for my life for weeks now. This experience has changed my life, and it has the potential of saving thousands of lives. I guess my perspective has changed on what's important, and what isn't. Fighting is a waste of time.

I've got to go to bed now. I will talk to you all tomorrow.

Barb

[västergötland]

You said "Now 3abn is being accused of breaking in...why...because Linda said it. Linda said there was a break in...Linda said only 3abn stuff was taken....Linda said her email was tapped (whatever that means)" Someone ELSE saying that a car was broken into is not "backing up" all of that.

So was the car broken in to or was it not?

So this is it people? Just a bunch of arguing over Linda's house being broken into? You have missed the forest because of a couple of trees? Are you all so blind that you can't see the real issue here? It took me DAYS to gather the courage to share my heart and make my life vulnerable for everyone to see, but God said, DO IT! So I did. There are thousands of people out there hurting that need ministered to, they NEED this health information. Are you even excited about it??

I'm so excited I could burst! The house being broken into has been taken care of, it's been reported to the police months ago, security has been increased, Linda was shaken -- but she's fine now. I don't know if Darrell reported his car break in, I don't think so, but it DOESN't matter. It's NOT the issue. I will not discuss the forged document and I will not supply information about it. Linda is handling it.

If you all want to discuss health issues or write letters that have an uplifting content, please feel free to respond to this message. But if you are only filled with hatred, frustration and are argumentative, please, I implore you to keep your comments to yourself.

If I sound a little hurt and frustrated it's because I am! I feel like I walked onto a 6th grade play ground today where all the kids were fighting with each other. I'm lonely over here, . . . and I've been fighting for my life for weeks now. This experience has changed my life, and it has the potential of saving thousands of lives. I guess my perspective has changed on what's important, and what isn't. Fighting is a waste of time.

I've got to go to bed now. I will talk to you all tomorrow.

Barb

Maybe you should post the letter in the health section aswell? Anything ending up in the 3abn area appears to have open hunting season written all over it..

[Nuggie]

So was the car broken in to or was it not?
Maybe you should post the letter in the health section aswell? Anything ending up in the 3abn area appears to have open hunting season written all over it..

[ex3ABNemployee]

You say you are here because of what happened to you when TS was your pastor. So, my question is this.....Why are you involved in all the other subjects going on here? You yourself said you weren't employed at 3ABN since the late 80"s when they had just started. So, the truth is, you don't know anything about their present employees, administration, board or any truths or untruths about Linda or Danny or any of the detailed conversations that go on here. So, why do you involve yourself in it? You have joined the bandwagon of 3abn bashers and honestly, that is not fair on you're part. There are lots and lots of things that you don't know and never will so it isn't right for you jump on the whole organization about that which you know not. Also, before you answer that 3abn was involved in a cover up on TS, then, if that were true, you would also have to hold Linda responsible. She approved his hiring and showed her approval by writing songs together and performing with him countless times. So just be fair. If you are going to hold 3 abn accountable in some aspect then hold her and her supporters accountable too.
Make sense?

You certainly read a lot into that one line. Where have I bashed 3abn? Where did I say 3abn was involved in a coverup?

All I know is you and a few others (or at least a few other screen names) have come on here and made little snide remarks about myself and other victims. You want to talk to ME about being fair?

You have made comments about myself and other letter writers. How does the Tommy Shelton situation affect you? Why are you involved in it? Perhaps if you don't want comments from me about anything else, you should not comment on my situation.

My point was that when certain people, who shall at this point remain nameless, know they're in trouble they start trying to tear down those who oppose them. It's been that way for years. I'm tired of seeing it, and I'm going to speak up.

This post has been edited by ex3ABNemployee: Feb 6 2007, 03:16 PM

[Noahswife]

Ok folks. I am going to state I am confused and ask for clarification.

I thought I read that someone named Daryl had his car broken into and I have not a clue who this person is.

I was under impression that ex3abn is named Duane and was a victim of TS that has come forward.

What am I missing?

nw

[Noahswife]

So this is it people? Just a bunch of arguing over Linda's house being broken into? You have missed the forest because of a couple of trees? Are you all so blind that you can't see the real issue here? It took me DAYS to gather the courage to share my heart and make my life vulnerable for everyone to see, but God said, DO IT! So I did. There are thousands of people out there hurting that need ministered to, they NEED this health information. Are you even excited about it??

I'm so excited I could burst! The house being broken into has been taken care of, it's been reported to the police months ago, security has been increased, Linda was shaken -- but she's fine now. I don't know if Darrell reported his car break in, I don't think so, but it DOESN't matter. It's NOT the issue. I will not discuss the forged document and I will not supply information about it. Linda is handling it.

If you all want to discuss health issues or write letters that have an uplifting content, please feel free to respond to this message. But if you are only filled with hatred, frustration and are argumentative, please, I implore you to keep your comments to yourself.

If I sound a little hurt and frustrated it's because I am! I feel like I walked onto a 6th grade play ground today where all the kids were fighting with each other. I'm lonely over here, . . . and I've been fighting for my life for weeks now. This experience has changed my life, and it has the potential of saving thousands of lives. I guess my perspective has changed on what's important, and what isn't. Fighting is a waste of time.

I've got to go to bed now. I will talk to you all tomorrow.

Barb

Barbara, I do not know you and in fact have never seen your program on 3ABN.

I want you to know that as of 5:45 EDT today your letter or this thread has already been viewed 775 times!! There have been less than 40 posts including ones of support from many and those by Johann.

I would like to believe that we who are here with open minds "got it" along the lines of Johann's recent post wondering if we did.

I add my prayers to those of the others for your ongoing success in your treatment.

I stand with others in amazement at what I am hearing about the treatment you have received and its apparent success. How I would love to see your medical records and talk to the doctor about what he is using to treat you. I bet everyone that read your letter recalled a past or current loved one that might have benefited from the treatment and ached a little that the loved one never had that chance.

I understand your reluctance to come forward with your testimony because the medical problem is one that is gynecological and therefore somehow not "acceptable" for public discussion. I still remember when my best friend's mom who was a RN and had worked in a SDA hospital signed herself into another hospital for her hysterectomy under another name so no one at church would know.......thank goodness I hope we have gotten beyond that.

So even though dozens or hundreds of us have added your testimony regarding your experiences with the doctor to our understanding of him, it is far easier for people to pick up and comment on the break in (s?). It is the more sensational aspect of your letter and one people can get emotional about as they see another possible injustice and speculate what it may mean. When I see how many people look at these posts/topics that are unregistered or registered and never comment, I am sometimes amazed at the number of those who are not willing to express opinions or ask questions. But that is ok. Don't think for one minute that just about every one of those who read the letter did not offer up a quick prayer for your ongoing recovery. But you are not going to see 100 posts saying the same thing. I will sometimes comment in such situations if I am an early reader and poster but not after 3 or 4 have said would i would have said.

So please do not question whether you should have sent your letter. Those who come here to read about what is happening want facts. We have many more allegations and he said/she said hearsay reported than facts on which to reach conclusions. The break in was a fact and although everyone will speculate as to what it means in the scheme of things, we will probably never know.

I have perceived from what I have read by others that you have many supporters and I know without a doubt they are happy to hear from you and pray that your own brand of ministry will continue despite all obstacles placed in your path.

God bless,
nw

This post has been edited by Noahswife: Feb 7 2007, 06:46 PM

[ex3ABNemployee]

I was under impression that ex3abn is named Duane and was a victim of TS that has come forward.

What am I missing?

nw

That's correct. I'm Duane.

I'll let beartrap answer your other question if he so chooses.

[princessdi]

Sorry Barbara,

I, too, grapped hold to the sensational portion of your message. My first thought was that of my Dad. He passed 10 years ago(Whew!! doesn't seem that long ago). He had a kidney transplant, two in fact, the first one never did work properly, the second took like a charm. Anyway the first kidney years later developed cancer and he had to have chemotherapy. The oncologist informed his kidney specialists that they had never been able to save the transplanted kidneys before. His drs. told the oncologists to go back to the drawing board, my Dad was their star patient, and they weren't going to lose that kidney! They had better try to mix something up! They did, and they wrote it up in the medical journals, and no people with transplants no longer have to lose their kidneys with their cancer treatments. My Dad and the kidney came through it like champs!

So the good Dr.'s discovery is indeed a miracle! Praise God!

So this is it people? Just a bunch of arguing over Linda's house being broken into? You have missed the forest because of a couple of trees? Are you all so blind that you can't see the real issue here? It took me DAYS to gather the courage to share my heart and make my life vulnerable for everyone to see, but God said, DO IT! So I did. There are thousands of people out there hurting that need ministered to, they NEED this health information. Are you even excited about it??

I'm so excited I could burst! The house being broken into has been taken care of, it's been reported to the police months ago, security has been increased, Linda was shaken -- but she's fine now. I don't know if Darrell reported his car break in, I don't think so, but it DOESN't matter. It's NOT the issue. I will not discuss the forged document and I will not supply information about it. Linda is handling it.

If you all want to discuss health issues or write letters that have an uplifting content, please feel free to respond to this message. But if you are only filled with hatred, frustration and are argumentative, please, I implore you to keep your comments to yourself.

If I sound a little hurt and frustrated it's because I am! I feel like I walked onto a 6th grade play ground today where all the kids were fighting with each other. I'm lonely over here, . . . and I've been fighting for my life for weeks now. This experience has changed my life, and it has the potential of saving thousands of lives. I guess my perspective has changed on what's important, and what isn't. Fighting is a waste of time.

I've got to go to bed now. I will talk to you all tomorrow.

Barb

[inga]

I'm so excited I could burst! The house being broken into has been taken care of, it's been reported to the police months ago, security has been increased, Linda was shaken -- but she's fine now. I don't know if Darrell reported his car break in, I don't think so, but it DOESN't matter. It's NOT the issue. I will not discuss the forged document and I will not supply information about it. Linda is handling it.

Barbara, we are happy for you and the results of the treatment you received from Dr. Abrahamsen. We pray for your continued well-being.

We are happy that he has made some progress in the search for a cure for cancer.

However, as you shared, he realizes that he is far from being able to claim his treatment as a "cure for cancer." Furthermore, he is booked ahead by a year or more. This means that, for all practical purposes, what he is doing now can benefit only a fortunate few until his research reaches the point that it can be shared with others who will use the treatment on their patients. (I can think of several individuals now who could have been or could be helped if they had access to his treatment. For some it is already too late. And others don't have a year or more to wait ...)

We have noted this, and we wait ...

The reason I (and probably others) focused on the break-in of Linda's house is that this is the 3ABN forum, and we are focused on issues that relate directly to 3ABN. The fact that only 3ABN-related stuff was taken or tampered with in her house is therefore highly significant.

We are here to see that things change sufficiently at 3ABN so that it will become the ministry it is proclaimed to be even now. We want to see the abuses stopped. That is our focus.

Again, we thank you for dropping in, and we rejoice over the good news. However, please don't blame us for picking up on some details relevant to our focus here.

As Johann suggested, your whole testimony is relevant in another way. It confirms that Dr. Abrahamsen is, indeed, a remarkable and successful doctor, contrary to claims by Dan Shelton that he is a quack. Thank you for sharing.

And may God continue to bless you.

By the way, I'm just wondering ... Did Dr. Abrahamsen give any instructions regarding lifestyle to remain cancer-free?

[ex3ABNemployee]

So this is it people? Just a bunch of arguing over Linda's house being broken into? You have missed the forest because of a couple of trees? Are you all so blind that you can't see the real issue here? It took me DAYS to gather the courage to share my heart and make my life vulnerable for everyone to see, but God said, DO IT! So I did. There are thousands of people out there hurting that need ministered to, they NEED this health information. Are you even excited about it??

Barbara,

I do apologize if I said anything to upset you. I will be praying for you and your continued recovery. My mother went through colon cancer for 18 months before she passed away. I know how stressful an illness can be, not only for the patient but for all those around them.

Please keep us updated on your progress. God bless.

[SandyColorado]

So this is it people? Just a bunch of arguing over Linda's house being broken into? You have missed the forest because of a couple of trees? Are you all so blind that you can't see the real issue here? It took me DAYS to gather the courage to share my heart and make my life vulnerable for everyone to see, but God said, DO IT! So I did. There are thousands of people out there hurting that need ministered to, they NEED this health information. Are you even excited about it??

I'm so excited I could burst! The house being broken into has been taken care of, it's been reported to the police months ago, security has been increased, Linda was shaken -- but she's fine now. I don't know if Darrell reported his car break in, I don't think so, but it DOESN't matter. It's NOT the issue. I will not discuss the forged document and I will not supply information about it. Linda is handling it.

If you all want to discuss health issues or write letters that have an uplifting content, please feel free to respond to this message. But if you are only filled with hatred, frustration and are argumentative, please, I implore you to keep your comments to yourself.

If I sound a little hurt and frustrated it's because I am! I feel like I walked onto a 6th grade play ground today where all the kids were fighting with each other. I'm lonely over here, . . . and I've been fighting for my life for weeks now. This experience has changed my life, and it has the potential of saving thousands of lives. I guess my perspective has changed on what's important, and what isn't. Fighting is a waste of time.

I've got to go to bed now. I will talk to you all tomorrow.

Barb

Barbara,

I am SO glad to see you back - and to hear the encouraging news on your health. I have been wondering where you were - and had hoped that we hadn't made you mad here on BSDA. I know that each one of us want the truth to be revealed, and get tired of trudging thru all of the gunk to get there - but praise God there are people like you out there who are are willing to put out uplifting and encouraging information. Please don't stop coming and sharing your love and information with us - and please tell Linda that most of us here really do love her and are rooting for her (with God's grace) to win in the end.

[Barbara Kerr]

Dear Noahs Wife, Princessdi, Ex3ABNEmployee, Inga, Sandy Colorado, & all,

Thanks for your words of encouragement. I really needed them tonight and they were heartfelt, believe me. Some of you also gave some good advice and it was much appreciated. Thank you!

As far as the year wait to be a patient, . . . please don't let that discourage you from calling and asking. Often he works in someone depending on how critical their condition is. The year wait is for people with non-life threatening conditions that want to be new patients.

Today it was in the mid 20's and snowed the entire day. Big beautiful flakes. It was beyond beautiful, so I decided to take a long walk with my camera. I walked down a long road that hadn't been plowed, far back into God's country. I was completely alone and you couldn't hear a sound. It was as if God had decorated every tree just for me. At the end of the road I discovered a lake. It was frozen over and covered with a fresh blanket of snow. I stared at it for a long time, pretending that it was the sea of glass. I brushed the snow off of a fence post and set my camera on self-timer, and took a few silly pictures of myself at the lake. Even though I was by myself, I never felt alone!

The walk was refreshing. It made me feel like I was surrounded by purity, and I fell in love with life all over again on that road. An hour and a half later I made it back to my apartment, . . . frozen, but happy. I drank down half a quart of carrot juice and then tried to warm up with a hot cup of chamomile tea. I think I will sleep very well tonight. I hope I dream about walking with Jesus on a long, snow-covered road in the forest.

Hugs, Barbara Kerr

[Johann]

Ok folks. I am going to state I am confused and ask for clarification.

I thought I read that someone named Daryl had his car broken into and I have not a clue who this person is.

I was under impression that ex3abn is named Duane and was a victim of TS that has come forward.

What am I missing?

nw

Perhaps we need to give some of you a clarification. Yes, you read right, that not only did someone break into Linda's house, but someone also broke into Darrell's car in California. Linda is Danny Shelton's former wife who got fired from 3ABN for something she had not done. Darrell Mundall is Danny Shelton's former son-in-law who was chased away from 3ABN because he knew that Linda was accused of something she had not done, and such people were not welcome on the premises.

There is also a Daryl on this net, but he was not involved in the case from the beginning. He is the manager of the MSDAOL net in Canada, which, at the present time seems to be the largest net affiliated with Adventists, trailed by BSDA. I think Daryl learned of this case by reading and following the discussions on BSDA, and then he decided to open it up for discussion on his own net too, and he is doing a tremendous job of it, although it is handled somewhat different than here at BSDA.

You will find the bosses on both nets participating in the discussions on the other net as well.

This post has been edited by Johann: Feb 7 2007, 04:55 PM

[franklyamazed]

Hi Barbara,

I've watched you LOTS of times, and you're by far my all-time favorite of the 3ABN kitchen crew! I always appreciated your much more intellectual approach to things from water quality to nutrition.

I'm shocked and dismayed to learn of your condition, and know that lots of people are praying for you. There is hope, however, and power in prayer. I know of a particularly hopeless appearing case with a ruptured malignant tumor, etc., that was saved by a combo of surgery, chemo and radiation, so if there is any residual that cannot be cared for, you still have other options.

Best wishes to you, and God bless.

[Bystander]

Perhaps we need to give some of you a clarification. Yes, you read right, that not only did someone break into Linda's house, but someone also broke into Darrell's car in California. Linda is Danny Shelton's former wife who got fired from 3ABN for something she had not done. Darrell Mundall is Danny Shelton's former son-in-law who was chased away from 3ABN because he knew that Linda was accused of something she had not done, and such people were not welcome on the premises.

There is also a Daryl on this net, but he was not involved in the case from the beginning. He is the manager of the MSDAOL net in Canada, which, at the present time seems to be the largest net affiliated with Adventists, trailed by BSDA. I think Daryl learned of this case by reading and following the discussions on BSDA, and then he decided to open it up for discussion on his own net too, and he is doing a tremendous job of it, although it is handled somewhat different than here at BSDA.

You will find the bosses on both nets participating in the discussions on the other net as well.

Yohann, please don't stick your neck out for DM. He knows why he is not longer there. As do several employees, his ex pastors and probably several on the church board. It had nothing to do with Linda and he knows it.