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post Feb 26 2007, 09:51 AM
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sounds like a whole lot of dysfunction......


QUOTE(Clay @ Feb 26 2007, 07:43 AM) [snapback]180741[/snapback]

typical adventist mindset when it comes to dealing with problems.... keep everything hidden..... don't tell anyone or speak publicly about it..... there are no problems here.....

that mindset is disgusting.....



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post Feb 26 2007, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(missthg @ Feb 26 2007, 09:51 AM) [snapback]180744[/snapback]

sounds like a whole lot of dysfunction......

that would be an understatement...


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post Feb 26 2007, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(Clay @ Feb 26 2007, 10:43 AM) [snapback]180741[/snapback]

typical adventist mindset when it comes to dealing with problems.... keep everything hidden..... don't tell anyone or speak publicly about it..... there are no problems here.....

that mindset is disgusting.....

You forgot " pay no attention to the man behind the curtain..."

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post Feb 26 2007, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(Lee @ Feb 26 2007, 09:40 AM) [snapback]180740[/snapback]

Pickle--just Christian courtesy and kindness should have prompted you to honor Dr. Thompsons request.

If someone told me, "I'm going to murder someone tomorrow," and asked me to keep it confidential, and I did not, would you say the same thing?

There are situations in which Christian courtesy and kindness demands that there be no confidentialty.
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QUOTE(awesumtenor @ Feb 26 2007, 09:13 AM) [snapback]180752[/snapback]

You forgot " pay no attention to the man behind the curtain..."

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Or the lumps under the rugs.


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post Feb 26 2007, 04:54 PM
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I find it interesting that at one time 3ABN relied on God for their protection. They braged how God had protect from this and that.

Have they lost their faith? Why are they turning to a locked down compound and laywers instead of God for protection? Or could it be their is sin in the camp from the leaders? Are the leaders afriad of God judgement because of their sin?
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Follow the money...as they say. Works nearly everytime (wink).

But, I'll repeat myself: No amount of wealth in the owrld can help humanity forward, not even in the hands of the most devoted worker. It didn't take the moneybags of Carnegie, or Gates, for Moses, John the Baptist, or Jesus to accomplish their mission. Paul took his message to the "whole world" (Rom 1:8) with hardly any support. I believe he was self-suppporting.


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Exactly! There it is! The same with TS. They both need to be sidelined until these issues are resloved. At this point Danny is as much a liability as they found Tommy to be, just because too many are asking too many questions, and not getting any answers. If they are telling the truth, then time and investigation will bear that out and they can rejoice in the deliverance of God. There is no admission of guilt in sidelining the problem, until resolved.


QUOTE(Richard Sherwin @ Feb 23 2007, 05:29 PM) [snapback]180281[/snapback]

Well said.

Even a person who believes that Dan/Tom and company are completely innocent should be able to understand that it would be best for 3abn for DS to step down until this controversy runs it's course. But then it is said that DS is a stubborn man....

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post Feb 26 2007, 05:18 PM
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[quote name='Panama_Pete' date='Feb 25 2007, 04:31 PM' post='180584']
Let us speak of false and misleading impressions, Aletheia
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Pete,

Yes he is identified as THE President, but nowhere is he called "THE Founder" and even if you were correct, two wrongs don't make a right. Gailon Joy's title is still misleading. All your argument proves is you are partial in judgment and overlook the wrongs of those you agree with, and think pointing at someone else will bury or trump that.

For shame...

BTW: I believe it was four Sheltons who originally signed the papers and started 3ABN, not two.

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Well it might take an action of the BoD to remove Danny, however we know that will never happen since they are all beholden to the prez. It's so typical of a leader to surround themselves with people you know will rubber stamp what ever you do. Maybe the only people that have the ability to bring down Danny are the donors, and unfortunately that might bring down 3abn as well. It might prove to be very providential that Hope TV can be there to fill in the gap if Danny goes down and takes 3abn with him.

Richard


QUOTE(princessdi @ Feb 26 2007, 06:13 PM) [snapback]180840[/snapback]

Exactly! There it is! The same with TS. They both need to be sidelined until these issues are resloved. At this point Danny is as much a liability as they found Tommy to be, just because too many are asking too many questions, and not getting any answers. If they are telling the truth, then time and investigation will bear that out and they can rejoice in the deliverance of God. There is no admission of guilt in sidelining the problem, until resolved.

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post Feb 26 2007, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE("Aletheia")
Yes he is identified as THE President, but nowhere is he called "THE Founder" and even if you were correct, two wrongs don't make a right. Gailon Joy's title is still misleading. All your argument proves is you are partial in judgment and overlook the wrongs of those you agree with, and think pointing at someone else will bury or trump that.

For shame...


Please remember that it is the Dannyscribes that are trying to make a case for job descriptions, not me. If you don't like this topic, you shouldn't have raised it in the first place.

And you add, "even if you [Panama_Pete] were correct, two wrongs don't make a right."

You realize, of course, that this quote helps my case, don't you?

It doesn't matter how many co-founders there were. (Yes, there were four signing the incorporation documents - Danny, Linda, Danny's brother and his brother's wife). It paints a false impression to take credit for the work of others, doesn't it?

Contrary to your opinion, Aletheia, Danny Shelton is, indeed, called "the founder." And saying "the president and founder" or "the founder and president" is exactly the same thing.

I documented my comments with several examples. So, save your comments of "for shame...." You can't make your shame label stick, no matter how many times you try.

What follows is just one of those typical examples showing that the phrase "the founder" is being circulated as the coin of the 3ABN realm. If a person had the time, I'm sure other examples could be illuminated here; I've seen many. Does repeating "the founder" over and over again make it true? Is it supposed to be a re-write of history? And who is supposed to believe it? Certainly not me.

http://www.amazon.com/Commandments-Twice-R...n/dp/1883012406

"About the Author
Danny Shelton is the founder and President of Three Angels Broadcasting Network. He has also authored several books and has been hosting programs on 3ABN for 20 years."


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post Feb 26 2007, 07:39 PM
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Save3ABN.com just topped 50,000 hits.


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"Lisa and Ronda are not Danny's biological father." -- wwjd, 2/8/07
"Watchbird, The facts prove the above lie." -- wwjd, 2/13/07
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"She didn't move to 3ABN, she moved to Illinois" -- Aletheia, 4/25/07
"Hope is liberal. 3abn is not." -- steffan, 6/9/07
"Danny Shelton does not decide what goes on the air, period." -- appletree, 8/22/07


http://www.save-3abn.com/
http://www.investigating3abn.info/
http://rescue3abn.blog.com/
http://www.abundantrest.org/?p=74
http://abundantrest.org/2007/02/18/3abn-sa...ons-retirement/
http://anewsabbathschool.blogspot.com/2006...ain-wrecks.html
http://cafesda.blogspot.com/2006/08/atoday...bn-news_21.html
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post Feb 26 2007, 07:47 PM
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But it's just a "little group"....

QUOTE(ex3ABNemployee @ Feb 26 2007, 08:39 PM) [snapback]180856[/snapback]

Save3ABN.com just topped 50,000 hits.

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post Feb 26 2007, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(Richard Sherwin @ Feb 26 2007, 07:47 PM) [snapback]180858[/snapback]

But it's just a "little group"....

Exactly what came to my mind


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"Lisa and Ronda are not Danny's biological father." -- wwjd, 2/8/07
"Watchbird, The facts prove the above lie." -- wwjd, 2/13/07
"Another lie that can be proven..." -- Bystander, 3/18/07
"The thing about lies is they can be proven." -- Aletheia, 3/22/07
"I am not here to argue" -- Aletheia, 4/24/07
"She didn't move to 3ABN, she moved to Illinois" -- Aletheia, 4/25/07
"Hope is liberal. 3abn is not." -- steffan, 6/9/07
"Danny Shelton does not decide what goes on the air, period." -- appletree, 8/22/07


http://www.save-3abn.com/
http://www.investigating3abn.info/
http://rescue3abn.blog.com/
http://www.abundantrest.org/?p=74
http://abundantrest.org/2007/02/18/3abn-sa...ons-retirement/
http://anewsabbathschool.blogspot.com/2006...ain-wrecks.html
http://cafesda.blogspot.com/2006/08/atoday...bn-news_21.html
http://www.atoday.com/email/2007/02/12/
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QUOTE(Clay @ Feb 26 2007, 11:43 AM) [snapback]180741[/snapback]

typical adventist mindset when it comes to dealing with problems.... keep everything hidden..... don't tell anyone or speak publicly about it..... there are no problems here.....

that mindset is disgusting.....

Sho' is....
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