 Letters Between Linda And The Thompsonville Church, J.L. re: counseling, censure & attempts at reconciliation |
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 Apr 12 2007, 10:57 AM
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Actually Aletheia has brought things to the table.
She brought us the church manual guidance and the John Lomacang letter. (Which I had previously read) My hat is off to her. Everything she brings does exactly what she wants it to do! It gives us another birds eye view of 3ABN. She acts like these things don't concern her, yet she brings them to our attention. I say she is aware of what she is doing! The Thompsonville church IS the 3ABN Church! Call it what you will, but in actuality it is the 3ABN church! If it walks like a duck; (Waddle, Waddle) If it talks like a duck; (Quack, Quack) It must be a duck! Waddle, waddle, quack, quack) Something is broken and needs to be fixed! Why is it still a Conference Church and not a CHURCH? I know, I know!! The Conference would have to pay all of JL's Salary and thus be controlled by the Conference and not Danny. Oops, we can't have that, now can we? 3ABN owns the pastor and the church. That is the way Danny likes it! Control, control, control, Power, power, power, Danny's way, Danny's way, Danny's way. Like Burger King, I get it MY way! We should thank Aletheia. I would like to. The letter to Linda from John Lomacang speaks volumes about the situation at the 3ABN church AND 3ABN! So, thank you Aletheia. Maybe you have more to bring to the table? I would sure love to see it, seriously. I am seriously thanking you for posting these things. No tongue in cheek this time. This post has been edited by Fran: Apr 12 2007, 11:21 AM -------------------- The greatest want of the world is the want of men-- men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall. {Ed 57.3}
But such a character is not the result of accident; it is not due to special favors or endowments of Providence. A noble character is the result of self-discipline, of the subjection of the lower to the higher nature--the surrender of self for the service of love to God and man. {Ed 57.4} |
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Apr 12 2007, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(Aletheia) What a bunch of garbage. Unless, of course, just the opposite is true. It wouldn't be speculation if it was said with good cause. You probably realize we have had people here who admitted it wasn't their thoughts they posted, but that of someone who'd just emailed them. But speaking of just the opposite being true, if you were watching DS on 3abn last night, you know he was enraged while referring to all the speculation being said about him on the internet. He said not to respond to any of it. He said "perfect peace have they which love they law and nothing shall offend them." He seemed really offended, and didn't smile once the whole hour except to smirk at his own jokes--which by the way didn't seem to be going over very well with his audience. I could sense the fire in his eyes while the sagging wrinkes around the neck line appeared deeper and deeper. You could tell there was no peace in his life. He did explain though that he'd been through a lot in the last couple of years. -------------------- Disclaimer Notice: You are hereby cautioned that the information contained within these posts are for the sole purpose of provoking thought, adding fair comment on matters of public interest, and not providing factual information. These posts do not reflect the actual thoughts or intentions of the person writing under this username since said person is not in any position to know. No effort has been made to ensure the accuracy of any personal view, opinion, or hyperbole presented. Therefore, by disclosing, copying, or distributing these posts to others, such information must subsequently be confirmed in writing, signed and dated, by the actual person, or persons, posting behind username LaurenceD.
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Apr 12 2007, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(Noahswife @ Apr 12 2007, 12:47 PM) [snapback]191103[/snapback] I don't want Observer's post to get lost on this thread and his questions to Aletheia ignored (although I am sure he would not object if Lee or FHB respond for her since that is a common trait on this and other forums). The highlighting is mine so the questions are not lost. Aletheia, Lee, etc how about a response? As Observer has stated. Let's see what you do. Will you respond? nw C"i" Ok Noah's wife. In my opinion, Someone who cannot understand the legal ramifications of slander and libel in regards to what they and their fellow accusers have done here, and on the save 3ABN site, etc. has no business questioning the ethics, morals, of anyone, or asking me, or 3ABN if we understand the the legal ramifications here. He has presented himself as Counsilor, adviser, and advocate, and would be far better served looking in the mirror and asking first hmself that, and then Linda and her defenders, and the rest of the 3ABN accusers. For as far as I am concerned they are without excuse. I won't be further drawn into UGLY. And am putting myself on a 3 day leave. Good bye This post has been edited by Aletheia: Apr 12 2007, 11:14 AM |
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Apr 12 2007, 11:11 AM
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Actually, he pastored at least one church( I want say it was two, but not sure) that I know of in Northern California Conference. He and his wife are very nice people. They actually lived near my Mom in a small city so she saw them quite often in the stores, etc. He and his wife also used to visit our church on their rare weeks off. Let me say that he is also. He and Doug Bachelor participated and a round table discussion program with R. C. House and other denominational leaders. I was really proud of them, the did quite well!
I absolutely do not believe JL is evil. I think he is a good and extremely knowledgeable man. However, we all make bad choices. It is those thimes when the enemy convinces us that we have gone too far. I just think this move to 3ABN started apositive, but is now a negative. QUOTE(Observer @ Apr 12 2007, 05:44 AM) [snapback]191060[/snapback] Tha apparent reality is that John L may have entered the SDA milnsitry from an alternative background to pastor the congregation associated most closely with 3-ABN. If the time comes that it is believed that there should be a pastoral change, John L. may be limited in his options? Yes, it may be that the IL Conferene would at that time be able to transfer him to another congregation? But, it still just may be that John is limited in the pastoral opportunities that he has outside of the congregation that is associated with 3-ABN? On the other hand, his musical abilities, as long as they may last, may help to make up for this? -------------------- TTFN
Di And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose---Romans 8:28 A great many people believe they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.-- William James It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.- Mark Twain |
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Apr 12 2007, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(Aletheia @ Apr 12 2007, 09:38 AM) [snapback]191075[/snapback] You guys are free to speculate, postulate or surmise all you like, but it doesn't mean you have a clue about who or what you are talking about. OTOH.... you just might be surprised if you knew how much we know....... 
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Apr 12 2007, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(Aletheia @ Apr 12 2007, 01:10 PM) [snapback]191111[/snapback] I won't be further drawn into UGLY. And am putting myself on a 3 day leave. Good bye Do what you must... but if it was all that UGLY... you'd leave and not return... and one of those days you wouldn't be able to post here anyway because it will be Sabbath and this subforum is closed then... So it's not like you are doing a whole lot... but if it makes you feel empowered... knock yourself out. We'll be here when you get back... In His service, Mr. J -------------------- There is no one more dangerous than one who thinks he knows God with a mind that is ignorant - Dr. Lewis Anthony
Youve got to be real comfortable in your own skin to survive the animosity your strength evokes in people you'd hope would like you. - Dr. Renita Weems |
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Apr 12 2007, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(Fran @ Apr 12 2007, 12:57 PM) [snapback]191107[/snapback] The Thompsonville church IS the 3ABN Church! Call it what you will, but in actuality it is the 3ABN church! If it walks like a duck; (Waddle, Waddle) If it talks like a duck; (Quack, Quack) It must be a duck! Waddle, waddle, quack, quack) Fran, Based on my perception of your delightful sense of humor, I thought I would also provide a link to a discussion where genuine fake ducks were detected. http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...l%3Den%26sa%3DG This post has been edited by Noahswife: Apr 12 2007, 12:47 PM
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Apr 12 2007, 12:47 PM
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it would be good if they were walking in a straight line... but I sense its more like this......
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Apr 12 2007, 12:49 PM
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http://thompsonville22.adventistchurchconnect.org/
This is the Thompsonville Church Web Site. You tell me. Is this representative of a church, or is this a Qusck, Quack, Waddle, Waddle, Duck, Duck, 3ABN, 3ABN church. Decide for yourself. -------------------- The greatest want of the world is the want of men-- men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall. {Ed 57.3}
But such a character is not the result of accident; it is not due to special favors or endowments of Providence. A noble character is the result of self-discipline, of the subjection of the lower to the higher nature--the surrender of self for the service of love to God and man. {Ed 57.4} |
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Apr 12 2007, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(awesumtenor @ Apr 12 2007, 12:42 PM) [snapback]191118[/snapback] Do what you must... but if it was all that UGLY... you'd leave and not return... and one of those days you wouldn't be able to post here anyway because it will be Sabbath and this subforum is closed then... So it's not like you are doing a whole lot... but if it makes you feel empowered... knock yourself out. We'll be here when you get back... In His service, Mr. J Actually Mr. J, I think you've hit on something there. Pickle always seems to get info that no one else has. I have thought for a long time that she was jealous of him. -------------------- Duane Clem
It's not about religion, it's about a relationship. Gems of Wisdom "Lisa and Ronda are not Danny's biological father." -- wwjd, 2/8/07 "Watchbird, The facts prove the above lie." -- wwjd, 2/13/07 "Another lie that can be proven..." -- Bystander, 3/18/07 "The thing about lies is they can be proven." -- Aletheia, 3/22/07 "I am not here to argue" -- Aletheia, 4/24/07 "She didn't move to 3ABN, she moved to Illinois" -- Aletheia, 4/25/07 "Hope is liberal. 3abn is not." -- steffan, 6/9/07 "Danny Shelton does not decide what goes on the air, period." -- appletree, 8/22/07 http://www.save-3abn.com/ http://www.investigating3abn.info/ http://rescue3abn.blog.com/ http://www.abundantrest.org/?p=74 http://abundantrest.org/2007/02/18/3abn-sa...ons-retirement/ http://anewsabbathschool.blogspot.com/2006...ain-wrecks.html http://cafesda.blogspot.com/2006/08/atoday...bn-news_21.html http://www.atoday.com/email/2007/02/12/ http://spectrummagazine.typepad.com/the_sp...eans_and_e.html |
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Apr 12 2007, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(Fran @ Apr 12 2007, 01:49 PM) [snapback]191129[/snapback] http://thompsonville22.adventistchurchconnect.org/ This is the Thompsonville Church Web Site. You tell me. Is this representative of a church, or is this a Qusck, Quack, Waddle, Waddle, Duck, Duck, 3ABN, 3ABN church. Decide for yourself.  Yup. Look at the address.A, perhaps when you return you could enlighten us on the history of "Angel Lane". I already know, but I'd sure like to hear your facts! Also, I'd be very interested in any information you might have regarding the EMPTY SDA CHURCH BUILDING that sits only a few miles down the road from 3ABN. Any idea who might own it? And what they are hoping to do with it? Could it be a bit overpriced?? |
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Apr 12 2007, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(Snoopy @ Apr 12 2007, 01:57 PM) [snapback]191146[/snapback] Yup. Look at the address.A, perhaps when you return you could enlighten us on the history of "Angel Lane". I already know, but I'd sure like to hear your facts! Also, I'd be very interested in any information you might have regarding the EMPTY SDA CHURCH BUILDING that sits only a few miles down the road from 3ABN. Any idea who might own it? And what they are hoping to do with it? Could it be a bit overpriced?? There is actually a Baptist church in there now. -------------------- Duane Clem
It's not about religion, it's about a relationship. Gems of Wisdom "Lisa and Ronda are not Danny's biological father." -- wwjd, 2/8/07 "Watchbird, The facts prove the above lie." -- wwjd, 2/13/07 "Another lie that can be proven..." -- Bystander, 3/18/07 "The thing about lies is they can be proven." -- Aletheia, 3/22/07 "I am not here to argue" -- Aletheia, 4/24/07 "She didn't move to 3ABN, she moved to Illinois" -- Aletheia, 4/25/07 "Hope is liberal. 3abn is not." -- steffan, 6/9/07 "Danny Shelton does not decide what goes on the air, period." -- appletree, 8/22/07 http://www.save-3abn.com/ http://www.investigating3abn.info/ http://rescue3abn.blog.com/ http://www.abundantrest.org/?p=74 http://abundantrest.org/2007/02/18/3abn-sa...ons-retirement/ http://anewsabbathschool.blogspot.com/2006...ain-wrecks.html http://cafesda.blogspot.com/2006/08/atoday...bn-news_21.html http://www.atoday.com/email/2007/02/12/ http://spectrummagazine.typepad.com/the_sp...eans_and_e.html |
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Apr 12 2007, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(Snoopy @ Apr 12 2007, 02:57 PM) [snapback]191146[/snapback] Yup. Look at the address.A, perhaps when you return you could enlighten us on the history of "Angel Lane". I already know, but I'd sure like to hear your facts! Also, I'd be very interested in any information you might have regarding the EMPTY SDA CHURCH BUILDING that sits only a few miles down the road from 3ABN. Any idea who might own it? And what they are hoping to do with it? Could it be a bit overpriced?? Since I have not personally been to the 3abn campus, the address "Angel Lane" is quite meaningless to me.... and possibly it is to many others also. So perhaps you would tell us more about its location. I think we have some of the history of the building that is now the church already posted on BSDA. Perhaps someone would be so kind as to look that up and post its url. I'd also like to know what you know about the "history" of "Angel Lane". It is from many people's bits and pieces of information that we are best able to construct the most complete picture. ................  ................QUOTE(ex3ABNemployee @ Apr 12 2007, 03:28 PM) [snapback]191153[/snapback] There is actually a Baptist church in there now. Very interesting... Do you know if they are purchasing it or are merely renting? |
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Apr 12 2007, 03:30 PM
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NW, you better WATCH IT missy or you might find yourself looking down your nose at a judge!!   QUOTE(Noahswife @ Apr 12 2007, 10:19 AM) [snapback]191096[/snapback] Hi Hersheys99  Mr. J has already responded to Lee but her post has made me wonder about something.  I wonder if Linda has been subjected to any behavior by some in real life that others might consider stalking or worse. It often seems to me these types of posts contain a good degree of projection. Has anyone else noticed that? nw C"i" -------------------- Thess. 2:16-17 - Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, and our God and Father, who has loved us and given us everlasting consolation and good hope by grace, comfort your hearts and establish you in every good word and work."
[quote: fine art] "Instead we seem to be using sensationalism, emotionalism, moving lights and motivational speakers that are prepared to manipulate, by well chosen words, the minds of the listeners. It used to be, messages that were given by our pioneers were wrenched from the depths of the heart by the Holy Spirit. Humor was not added to get that laugh of entertainment. Drama was not introduced behind the sacred desk to glue your attention. Man's Rationale has replaced a cry for God's wisdom." "How To Be Free From Bitterness" ( booklet written by Jim Wilson of Community Christian Ministries, Moscow, Idaho - E-mail: ccm@moscow.com ) |
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Apr 12 2007, 03:31 PM
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I am not sure what I'm supposed to be able to tell from the Thompsonville church website. That is the generic template for church websites that most Adventist Churches are being encouraged to use. (see http://www.adventistchurchconnect.com/ ). The only thing that looks very specific there is the 'Contact Us' page with the pastor's name, street address, etc.
Having seen this template many a time, I personally see nothing on the church website as evidence either way.  If y'all are seeing something on that website that I'm not, do enlighten, please! This post has been edited by from-the-pew: Apr 12 2007, 03:35 PM -------------------- Pssst! Hi! It's me... no, no, not over there....
I'm over here... sittin' in the pews.... that's me, in the corner - out of the spot light.... I ain't got no connections. I ain't got nobody to call... All that "inside information" - don't mean a thing to me a'tall. Yup, that's me, in the corner, I'm a stockholder in the pews. Havin' to dig through all the nin-com-piddy, to find a fact or two... I just don't wanna believe it... it just makes me wanna cry... I'm just afraid we're gonna lose 3abn, no matter who's wrong or right... I'm sorry... I couldn't help it... I just had this music playing in my head... I got a bit carried away - ok, a LOT carried away... |
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