Change In 3-abn Leadership Options

[mozart]

To the moderators and those who do not wish to be called "dear" and "sweetie", I believe this man is not being condescending to Cindy in any manner. I believe he is truthfully, sincerely concerned for her welfare and I join him in that concern.

I'd sure miss her if she was go leave, though. As much as I don't agree with lots of her opinions, I enjoy reading them. Of course, I miss Bystander too.

i'm too old and too married to mean that any other way. anyone can tell you, that's just how i talk. i am very concerned.

[princessdi]

Number one, Please do not ever try to put me on the spot, again.

Ok, now the first thing is anyone can answer anything that is posted. Aletheia can put Awesumtenor on ignore and she wont' have to see anything he posts ever again, unless it is quoted. However, the comment will be removed, as it ws over the top.

Since the PM is not working until sometime this weekend, please if you can come into LC and use the PM feature there. I general have a sindow open to both the site an LC all day.

Also, can I ask, that, starting with myself, we all start minding our words. We all afterall, supposed to be grown, and christians at that. I am starting with myself, but I know this is a very heated topic some if not all tend to get a bit out of hand with our comments.

Nothing has been done about any of his posts to her. Perhaps PrincessDi can answer?

[Seraphim7]

Mr. J, I am not defending Aletheia by any means, but I understand your quote above as being a very low blow and unacceptable. Am I reading it in the wrong way?

Yes, you are reading it the wrong way.

Here is another observation since you have obviously missed where her foolishness began. Aletheias clearly suggesting that the brother is stalking her online is the low brow, yet we do not see you crying foul. His pointing out very clearly that her accusation is waaaay off base should be seen for what it is, his observations, of her foolish behavior.

If you folks would stay on topic and avoid the attempts to make low brow accusations to distract from the subject... making comments to simply draw attention to oneself simply to sidetrack the discussion then much of such comments could and would be avoided.

That's my suggestion to those of you who are good at using weapons of mass distraction.

[awesumtenor]

Cindy,

I've asked Di to delete the comment vis a vis your husband and I apologize for making it. While it was made tongue in cheek, it was, in retrospect, out of bounds and I should not have followed when you and eirene decided to go into the mire.

I will be more mindful of my footing on this particular slippery slope in the future.

In His service,
Mr. J

[Whtz Happenin]

Yes, you are reading it the wrong way.

Here is another observation since you have obviously missed where her foolishness began. Aletheias clearly suggesting that the brother is stalking her online is the low brow, yet we do not see you crying foul. His pointing out very clearly that her accusation is waaaay off base should be seen for what it is, his observations, of her foolish behavior.

If you folks would stay on topic and avoid the attempts to make low brow accusations to distract from the subject... making comments to simply draw attention to oneself simply to sidetrack the discussion then much of such comments could and would be avoided.

That's my suggestion to those of you who are good at using weapons of mass distraction.

seraph|m,
My question to Mr. J only had to do with his statement, which he apologized for and I respect him for doing that. Thank you Mr. J.
I know that I have said things without thinking it completely through in the past and try to be quick to apologize when I realize it.

I am not sure who you are trying to include me with in your "If you folks," "draw attention to oneself" and "to those of you" comments.

Again, my intent was not to attack Mr. J or anyone else, but to only point out to a brother that he may have stepped over the line. In retrospect, maybe I should have sent him a PM.

[HUGGINS130]

calvin you know in the bible there were special sabbath days that fell during the week...please exercise your authority and have a floating sabbath so you can shut this mess down for a day or so...LOL

[Seraphim7]

seraph|m,
My question to Mr. J only had to do with his statement, which he apologized for and I respect him for doing that. Thank you Mr. J.
I know that I have said things without thinking it completely through in the past and try to be quick to apologize when I realize it.

I am not sure who you are trying to include me with in your "If you folks," "draw attention to oneself" and "to those of you" comments.

Again, my intent was not to attack Mr. J or anyone else, but to only point out to a brother that he may have stepped over the line. In retrospect, maybe I should have sent him a PM.

It might have been wiser to PM, if you did not want anyone else to comment. But then, this is an OPEN forum for discussion. If you are not one to use said tactics then you are welcome to ignore said comments.

[PeacefulBe]

It might have been wiser to PM, if you did not want anyone else to comment. But then, this is an OPEN forum for discussion. If you are not one to use said tactics then you are welcome to ignore said comments.

Plus, PM is down until this weekend so very hard to use right now.

[Seraphim7]

Plus, PM is down until this weekend so very hard to use right now.

Thanks for stating the obvious

[Pickle]

C'mon....I have known many pastors that held grudges, were guilty of gossip and making false allegations and made it their job to tear down people or ministries that they didn't approve of.

I know a televangelist that's done that too.

[runner4him]

PB, I said nothing about my search for truth being done. I said:
I have already done my diligent search for truth regarding what I am posting about.,
There is much I do not post about, for I haven't found or recieved the answers I am looking for yet...

As far as anger goes. Here's the deal. I shut off my computer when I am angry and walk away, and don't post.
So I know, and God knows that there is no anger in my posts. (altho they are always full of typos and misspellings)

If you all then, keep claiming to see what I know is not there, even after I have explained this before, I also know something else....

Not to trust your judgments.

I'm sure that is not going to sit well with you, but that's just the way it is.

I find the statement regarding becoming angry and then shutting off the computer and walking away somewhat revealing. Although I know nothing about you I can detect anger issues in your postings..just the way you seem to feel the need to respond to others and what they are posting. Maybe it is at the urging of those who are standing behind you that you feel the need to be stirred up so. I have to believe that the real reason we are all here is to become more informed and to share vital information to reach the truth about the mess that is and has been going on. I was in the dark for too long and I am a person who likes to look at the facts. It was not that long ago that I was a faithful watcher and promoter of 3ABN..you could find me in the cheering section of 3ABN. watching it, promoting it..sending the checks. Then...a certain letter came to my home about Linda and the rumors began to fly! I was, even then, blindly thinking..well, the rumors must be right..she must be guilty..and then..doubt about it all crept in. Even with the doubt I am sad to say that although I was no longer in the cheering section neither was I found on the questioning side..I was in the middle which is popular but not where God wants me to be. I even cautioned someone who I saw climbing onto the limb..don't go there..not popular..not comfortable. Now I say we must seek the truth..without anger or hostility that we might not be found wanting. For me it is imperative!

[Seraphim7]

... one woman did so repeatedly and finally posted she believed Mr J was a internet stalker, she was mocked and still nothing was done.

Greetings Eirene and welcome to BlackSDA. Obviously you have your facts wrong so, I will attempt to help you as best I can.

Many of us, Awesumt included, have been members of one internet ministry or another for well over 10 years. And he, along with another 99 other charter members of BlackSDA, myself included, have been members here for over 5 years. So, it would stand to reason, if anyone is being followed around, it is Aletheia stalking him, not the other way around.

With that said, the lie (and it is a lie when it is NOT the truth) that Aletheia has stated and the lie you continue to perpetuate clearly suggests that your intent is malicious and simply designed to distract from the real issues discussed in each thread where said lie is introduced.

Finally, whether we should chalk this lie up to an over active imagination on Aletheias part or simple e wishful thinking is anyones guess but, rest assured, to continue to perpetuate this lie one must admit that ones intent is not at all to draw anyone to truth, which is found only in Christ Jesus.

Be Blessed

This post has been edited by seraph|m: Apr 26 2007, 01:57 PM

[PeacefulBe]

I find the statement regarding becoming angry and then shutting off the computer and walking away somewhat revealing. Although I know nothing about you I can detect anger issues in your postings..just the way you seem to feel the need to respond to others and what they are posting. Maybe it is at the urging of those who are standing behind you that you feel the need to be stirred up so. I have to believe that the real reason we are all here is to become more informed and to share vital information to reach the truth about the mess that is and has been going on. I was in the dark for too long and I am a person who likes to look at the facts. It was not that long ago that I was a faithful watcher and promoter of 3ABN..you could find me in the cheering section of 3ABN. watching it, promoting it..sending the checks. Then...a certain letter came to my home about Linda and the rumors began to fly! I was, even then, blindly thinking..well, the rumors must be right..she must be guilty..and then..doubt about it all crept in. Even with the doubt I am sad to say that although I was no longer in the cheering section neither was I found on the questioning side..I was in the middle which is popular but not where God wants me to be. I even cautioned someone who I saw climbing onto the limb..don't go there..not popular..not comfortable. Now I say we must seek the truth..without anger or hostility that we might not be found wanting. For me it is imperative!

runner4him,

What a testimony! It is similar to what many others have experienced. We are glad that you are joining with those of us who are seeking truth!

This post has been edited by PeacefullyBewildered: Apr 26 2007, 01:00 PM

[SoulEspresso]

I've been away from the computer for a few days, so it was ... er ... nice ... to come back.

I note with interest who was willing to apologize for inflammatory statements, and who was not.

Anyone who has been stalked would never make that kind of accusation lightly. I haven't, but I'm married to someone who has.

I also believe that certain individuals posting here are not, and were never, after the truth. They came to post as a favor to 3ABN or they were hired to do so with money or something else (no idea what, but oh well).

If you find a particular item a person says which is blatantly false, or if you find them consistently trying to divert discussions from the real issues, or generally obfuscating, denigrating, and playa hating (thanks Mr. J), why should you believe anything they say at all--for example, that they're not in regular contact with the powers at the channel?

Aspects of these discussions do generate light, but from some quarters all we get is hot air.

Makes for fun reading!



... as far as anger goes ... that was about the first thing Christ preached against in Matthew. There's a place for righteous anger--but anger is like nitroglycerin, it has to be handled with extreme care. And when it comes to sinful anger, like any other kind of sin, trying to see it in ourselves is like trying to look at our own eyeballs without a mirror.

I say that as someone who assumes himself to be fairly angry much of the time.

This post has been edited by SoulEspresso: Apr 26 2007, 01:47 PM

[Seraphim7]

I've been away from the computer for a few days, so it was ... er ... nice ... to come back.

I note with interest who was willing to apologize for inflammatory statements, and who was not.

Anyone who has been stalked would never make that kind of accusation lightly. I haven't, but I'm married to someone who has.

Awesumt aka MrJ is also married to someone who has been stalked. Thus, he does not take said accusations lightly.

Peace