Hospitalization Of Danny Shelton, Forwarded Announcement from Club Adventist Options

[Johann]

I'll grant you that, Calvin. Why, then, did the board make pronouncements on the divorce?

Again an important question.

Does chronology matter? Should the board make prophetic decisions? Or merely decisions that would please the president and not the vice president?

[Panama_Pete]

I'll grant you that, Calvin. Why, then, did the board make pronouncements on the divorce?

"It is not enough to win, all others must lose."

Sun Tzu.

[princessdi]

But that is exactly what they did by siding with Danny and firing Linda, before the divorce. They found she was at fault without any kind of "imparital" investigation. Only Danny was not happy and didnt' want her around anymore at home or at work. If they were going to take it upon themselves to pass judgement they should have suspended them both while performing an investigation.

Johann, I said what I said speaking from a practical position. Linda and Danny sitting on the porch holding hands on the set, patting Fluffy won’t play anymore.
Does not matter, had the Linda/Danny relationship gotten so bad that the two of them working together effected the ongoing concern of 3ABN? Then the board has a responsibility to act in the best interest of 3ABN, regardless of who was at fault. It was not the board’s job to get to the bottom of this adultery thing as many people here seem to think. The board can’t make these two people love each other; they had to deal with the fallout and what that meant to 3abn. IMO

[Fran]

But that is exactly what they did by siding with Danny and firing Linda, before the divorce. They found she was at fault without any kind of "impartial" investigation. Only Danny was not happy and didn't' want her around anymore at home or at work. If they were going to take it upon themselves to pass judgement they should have suspended them both while performing an investigation.

Di;

I totally agree!

[calvin]

But that is exactly what they did by siding with Danny and firing Linda, before the divorce. They found she was at fault without any kind of "imparital" investigation. Only Danny was not happy and didnt' want her around anymore at home or at work. If they were going to take it upon themselves to pass judgement they should have suspended them both while performing an investigation.

and so if Linda had had the opportunity to tell her side of the story to the board, had an investigation as you suggested, would it have mattered? None of them or us where there in their bedroom. Just been more he said/she said that we have been reading for over two years now. Relationships deterriate, business partners fallout for all types of reasons, to the point that they have to part ways. Stuff happens, it's business.

[princessdi]

But it is not "just business". Thsi is 3ABN, The Leader in Christian Living. "Stuff" is not supposed to "happen" at the Christian network that claims to be "The Leader in Christian Living". They are supposed to practice what they preach. They don't get be ministry before the cameras and fundraising tours., and cut throat, Wall Street when Danny doesn't like w how long Linda is on the phone. They didn't have to be in the bedroom, in fact, they weren't so the board had no business making such a judgement. They should have at least suspended them both, even if they found in Danny's favor later. For the sake of not looking the least bit like Danny's rubberstamp. But now, even the one's who we know just basically "fly in" for quarterly meetings, like Whintley Phipps, look suspect. Now, Whintley's own reputation is susffient to keep him from most harm this could do to someone.

and so if Linda had had the opportunity to tell her side of the story to the board, had an investigation as you suggested, would it have mattered? None of them or us where there in their bedroom. Just been more he said/she said that we have been reading for over two years now. Relationships deterriate, business partners fallout for all types of reasons, to the point that they have to part ways. Stuff happens, it's business.

[beartrap]

and so if Linda had had the opportunity to tell her side of the story to the board, had an investigation as you suggested, would it have mattered? None of them or us where there in their bedroom. Just been more he said/she said that we have been reading for over two years now. Relationships deterriate, business partners fallout for all types of reasons, to the point that they have to part ways. Stuff happens, it's business.

I fully agree with you here. Business is just business, and it is just a business. "Ministry" is mostly just a facade that makes people feel good about themselves and where they are placing their money. The right words, phrases, and the term "ministry" are just another form of business producing widgets that people are willing and anxious to put their money toward, just like any other product. Appeal to the emotions and claim that those emotions are "the Holy Spirit speaking to you" and people's wallets will quickly open up. All of this stuff about "last days", "Revelation", and all of the fine things said of Jesus are a business sales pitch by people who know how to sell the widgets that Adventists want. Is there anything wrong with that? Have you gotten some satisfaction from hearing what you want to hear, on 3ABN? Maybe that is a good thing... I don't know. Perhaps having the wool pulled over your eyes is not all bad? Maybe being bamboozled by con artists is just another of the finer parts of life and history? Who knows but the Creator who created those who fool, and those who are fooled.

[mystery- man]

I fully agree with you here. Business is just business, and it is just a business. "Ministry" is mostly just a facade that makes people feel good about themselves and where they are placing their money. The right words, phrases, and the term "ministry" are just another form of business producing widgets that people are willing and anxious to put their money toward, just like any other product. Appeal to the emotions and claim that those emotions are "the Holy Spirit speaking to you" and people's wallets will quickly open up. All of this stuff about "last days", "Revelation", and all of the fine things said of Jesus are a business sales pitch by people who know how to sell the widgets that Adventists want. Is there anything wrong with that? Have you gotten some satisfaction from hearing what you want to hear, on 3ABN? Maybe that is a good thing... I don't know. Perhaps having the wool pulled over your eyes is not all bad? Maybe being bamboozled by con artists is just another of the finer parts of life and history? Who knows but the Creator who created those who fool, and those who are fooled.

Sad so terribly sad, "just a business" decision. In a fatal swoop we have heard the whole summation of the argument, "it was a wise business move". It didnt matter wheither the move represented what would Jesus do neither did it make any difference what people who loved Danny and Linda would think it was just a smart business move that would allow things to go smoothly. Hirelings, that is what we have representing the church, simple hirelings working to make money with the added benefit of making heaven their home also, the perfect match.

[Johann]

Sad so terribly sad, "just a business" decision. In a fatal swoop we have heard the whole summation of the argument, "it was a wise business move". It didnt matter wheither the move represented what would Jesus do neither did it make any difference what people who loved Danny and Linda would think it was just a smart business move that would allow things to go smoothly. Hirelings, that is what we have representing the church, simple hirelings working to make money with the added benefit of making heaven their home also, the perfect match.

Well, isn't it rather important that we gain a certain amount of popularity in the business world? Even if we do have to make some compromises on what the Lord expects of us? Is it that important to us to gain a place in His kingdom? Do we not deserve a place there, even if we have to make some adjustments in our spiritual life, if we thereby succeed with our popularity to gain a number of adherents to the unique SDA doctrines?

[judibug60]

Well, isn't it rather important that we gain a certain amount of popularity in the business world? Even if we do have to make some compromises on what the Lord expects of us? Is it that important to us to gain a place in His kingdom? Do we not deserve a place there, even if we have to make some adjustments in our spiritual life, if we thereby succeed with our popularity to gain a number of adherents to the unique SDA doctrines?

you know folks....I have been reading these threads for weeks now without replying.....but I tell you this.....it is at the point with this whole mess, that it appears the whole thing is slowly subsiding....not much activity at all in regards to what is being done......and this kind of thing, unfortunately, has the tendency to slowly dwindle into the shadows, and we as human beings, tend to move on with life and just totally forget it....I think at this point, everyone just has to choose whether they will continue to watch this program or not....I believe that Our Lord gave us a very distinctive book of laws that we MUST follow in order to inherit the kingdom, and unless we follow that law to the TEE>>>>>>> we will lose........There is so much compromise in the SDA faith anymore, that unless you study the BIBLE and the Spirit of Prophecy council continually, you will get caught up in the compromises...and I feel that this is exactly what is going on....somehow there are a few good christians trying to hang on to the true word on that program,,,,,but there is so much compromising going on, that I just don't believe the Good Christrian people will continue to stay with this program....otherwise.....one just has to choose for them selves which way they intend to follow this.....I believe with all my heart that MONEY TALKS.....and if you have more that the next guy....you will win out......I just pray earnestly, that the Lord will step in and not allow the wrong messages that we, as a special people , with the last day message to deliver, are mislead by a "CHRISTIAN" program, that has this kind of standard going on....It is beginning to look like everyother televangilist program being aired on every channel....we are suppose to be preparing for the Lord to come.....and this kind of mess only confirms why there will be such a small handful who will remain true to the Lords Law.....
LORD, Protect our chosen people...........

[Seraphim7]

I fully agree with you here. Business is just business, and it is just a business. "Ministry" is mostly just a facade that makes people feel good about themselves and where they are placing their money. The right words, phrases, and the term "ministry" are just another form of business producing widgets that people are willing and anxious to put their money toward, just like any other product. Appeal to the emotions and claim that those emotions are "the Holy Spirit speaking to you" and people's wallets will quickly open up. All of this stuff about "last days", "Revelation", and all of the fine things said of Jesus are a business sales pitch by people who know how to sell the widgets that Adventists want. Is there anything wrong with that? Have you gotten some satisfaction from hearing what you want to hear, on 3ABN? Maybe that is a good thing... I don't know. Perhaps having the wool pulled over your eyes is not all bad? Maybe being bamboozled by con artists is just another of the finer parts of life and history? Who knows but the Creator who created those who fool, and those who are fooled.

Blessings Bear, long time no see.

It's funny when you mentioned the business aspect of this whole scenario another tv "minister/ministry" came to mind. Namely Pat Robertson/CBN.<--- read hear.

In both cases 3ABN and CBN known by many as the 700 Club and, in some circles as "the little horn", I am drawn to the phrase "everything that glitters is not gold." For some it is genuinely about ministering the gospel of Christ Jesus to all. For others, it is simply about the business/money and who they can find gullible enough to buy their snake oil, a lil for the stomach sake so to speak. I am not saying that where I think either of these "ministries" fall in that regard. I am truly thankful however, that God is able to use anything to draw believers to Him regardless of mans intentions or devising.

Peace

[Statrei]

I believe that Our Lord gave us a very distinctive book of laws that we MUST follow in order to inherit the kingdom, and unless we follow that law to the TEE>>>>>>> we will lose........

Lots of people have died and are willing to die for this belief. Sadly, it is a misplaced belief.

[Johann]

Lots of people have died and are willing to die for this belief. Sadly, it is a misplaced belief.

If so, Where is the proper place for it?

[PeacefulBe]

The Pharisees had a similar goal, didn't they? It was all about the law. I would hope that by now we would realize that following the yellow brick road of legalism only gets us to a guy pretending to be a wizard. It's my opinion that it is probably best to follow Jesus.

[Observer]

"It is not enough to win, all others must lose."

Sun Tzu.

PP:

To be able to cite Sun Tau makes you truely a scholar and a person of letters.

I thought that only peple who have studied [deleted] would know his name.

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