Hospitalization Of Danny Shelton, Forwarded Announcement from Club Adventist Options

[Skyhook]

"Leadership is a matter of intelligence, trustworthiness, humaneness, courage, and sterness"

Another gem from Master Sun which may explain a lot about 3abn's problems.

This post has been edited by Skyhook: Oct 12 2007, 09:29 PM

[SoulEspresso]

Lots of people have died and are willing to die for this belief. Sadly, it is a misplaced belief.

I'm gonna have to go with Statrei on this one. If the Adventist Church is about the Adventist Church, it deserves that "cult" label. If it's about Jesus Christ, well then, that's different. Our unique doctrines become demonic idols if they serve any other purpose than to enable us to love and serve Jesus better.

Of course everyone will agree with that statement, but whether they apply it is another question.

Edited for punctuation.

This post has been edited by SoulEspresso: Oct 13 2007, 08:52 AM

[PrincessDrRe]

Brandy must be thinking.... "My goodness... I married an old man with a coronary."

If Brandy really loves him, and not just the glory of being married to the COFOUNDER of 3ABN, she will be by his side through thick and thin---and all the while she will encourage him and help each of them to make right the wrongs that they have done to so many---whatever that is. I am praying for them both. We should all pray for everyone that is entangled in this horrible mess that used to be whatever God meant for 3ABN to be.

...and iffin' she's human she's thinking both the positive and negative. The "positive" being - "This is my husband and Imma stand by him regardless..." The "negative being - "I married a half-dead old man....."

Now.

How is Danny now?

Is he dead?

Was their a surgery?

Is he in a coma?

Did he have a heart transplant?

What about a pacemaker?

Details about the OP of the thread please....

[PeacefulBe]

...and iffin' she's human she's thinking both the positive and negative. The "positive" being - "This is my husband and Imma stand by him regardless..." The "negative being - "I married a half-dead old man....."

Now.

How is Danny now?

Is he dead?

Was their a surgery?

Is he in a coma?

Did he have a heart transplant?

What about a pacemaker?

Details about the OP of the thread please....

Danny released from hospital announcement by Ian.

[watchbird]

'PrincessDrRe' date='Oct 13 2007, 11:00 AM' post='219545'
...and iffin' she's human she's thinking both the positive and negative. The "positive" being - "This is my husband and Imma stand by him regardless..." The "negative being - "I married a half-dead old man....."

Those are kindly thought imputations.... I can think of a bunch of others.... but I'll not "go there".

Now.

How is Danny now?

Well... he's been seen in public ... even singing.... so guess he must be doing quite well.

Is he dead?

Not likely.... See above....

Was their a surgery?

If putting in a stent is considered surgery, yes. If not, no.

Is he in a coma?

See above.

Did he have a heart transplant?

No... only a stent.

What about a pacemaker?

No. See above.

Details about the OP of the thread please....

I've also been told that the "serious heart disease" and heart artery blockage is a 50% blockage... which, if I understand correctly, is not really all that uncommon for someone of his age. And he was only kept in the hospital for two days.... so he couldn't have been very bad off.

[Panama_Pete]

PP:
To be able to cite Sun Tau makes you truly a scholar and a person of letters.

Thank you for the kind words.

[Panama_Pete]

'PrincessDrRe' date='Oct 13 2007, 11:00 AM' post='219545'
...and iffin' she's human she's thinking both the positive and negative. The "positive" being - "This is my husband and Imma stand by him regardless..." The "negative being - "I married a half-dead old man....."

Those are kindly thought imputations.... I can think of a bunch of others.... but I'll not "go there".

Here are my own imputations on the subject of men growing older-- with its concomitant health concerns. There's a Web site called:

"His Midlife Crisis, Her Midlife Crisis, We Hate To See You Here But Welcome to the Club."

http://www.midlifewivesclub.com/

"You need to be aware of what's happening to your man. Being aware will make you less apt to blame yourself for the things going wrong. He will be blaming you as it is, because he knows he's not at fault.

There's not much you can do to speed up his passage through this crisis in your lives. He probably doesn't want to talk about it, at least not to you. He may believe that you're the whole reason he feels the way he does. It's not true.

You need to understand that this is his problem, it will have to be his solution—what he's going through is normal and you are not responsible. You can't change it or fix it because you didn't break it.

You will have to step back and let him whirl around in his search to find himself. He has a need to blame someone for the bad feelings he has, for the terrible way he's acting, for the lousy way he feels. Don't believe it if he says everything wrong in his life is because of you. And don't try to explain his feelings to him because you can't and he won't listen. "

[appletree]

'PrincessDrRe' date='Oct 13 2007, 11:00 AM' post='219545'
...and iffin' she's human she's thinking both the positive and negative. The "positive" being - "This is my husband and Imma stand by him regardless..." The "negative being - "I married a half-dead old man....."

Those are kindly thought imputations.... I can think of a bunch of others.... but I'll not "go there".

Now.

How is Danny now?

Well... he's been seen in public ... even singing.... so guess he must be doing quite well.

Is he dead?

Not likely.... See above....

Was their a surgery?

If putting in a stent is considered surgery, yes. If not, no.

Is he in a coma?

See above.

Did he have a heart transplant?

No... only a stent.

What about a pacemaker?

No. See above.

Details about the OP of the thread please....

I've also been told that the "serious heart disease" and heart artery blockage is a 50% blockage... which, if I understand correctly, is not really all that uncommon for someone of his age. And he was only kept in the hospital for two days.... so he couldn't have been very bad off.

Now let me tell you the facts. The stent was placed in a smaller artery that was 90% blocked. The 2 main arteries of the heart are the ones that are 50% blocked. The severity is that they are not just blocked they are lined with calcium and plaque to the degree that he is not even a candidate for bypass. This was decided several weeks after the stent and all the testing was finished. When you are not a candidate for bypass and the main arteries are closing up, the situation becomes very serious. I won't bother to detail the grimm outlook from the cardiac specialists.

So, if you all you sincere christians want to continue to make fun of this situation, go ahead, I can't stop you, but, it definitely reflects an "attitude" to the lurkers here.

[appletree]

But that is exactly what they did by siding with Danny and firing Linda, before the divorce. They found she was at fault without any kind of "imparital" investigation. Only Danny was not happy and didnt' want her around anymore at home or at work. If they were going to take it upon themselves to pass judgement they should have suspended them both while performing an investigation.

Princess Di, were you there? I was and you couldn't be any further from the truth if you tried. (which of course you do.)

[Panama_Pete]

Now let me tell you the facts. The stent was placed in a smaller artery that was 90% blocked. The 2 main arteries of the heart are the ones that are 50% blocked. The severity is that they are not just blocked they are lined with calcium and plaque to the degree that he is not even a candidate for bypass. This was decided several weeks after the stent and all the testing was finished. When you are not a candidate for bypass and the main arteries are closing up, the situation becomes very serious. I won't bother to detail the grimm outlook from the cardiac specialists.

So, if you all you sincere christians want to continue to make fun of this situation, go ahead, I can't stop you, but, it definitely reflects an "attitude" to the lurkers here.

Dear Mr. Appletree:

Two words: chelation therapy.

http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4493

Personally, I would not wait till 2010 to see the results of this study if I had a problem now. I believe that the purple-haired lady on the other televangelist network has had this treatment for whatever reason.

"This study is being done because there is a public health need to conduct a large, well-designed clinical trial to find out if chelation therapy is safe and effective for treating people with coronary heart disease. If people use chelation therapy and it doesn’t work, they may be deprived of the well-established benefits from the many other valuable methods of treating these diseases, such as lifestyle modifications, medications and surgical procedures.

The trial is taking place at about 100 research sites across the United States and is testing EDTA chelation therapy by using the most widely practiced means of administering it. The trial began in 2003; patients receive 30 weekly intravenous treatments, then 10 more treatments given bimonthly, over a 28-month period. They also receive high doses of vitamins, which are also often given with chelation therapy. (The effect of such vitamin doses will also be examined in the trial.) The study is expected to be completed in 2010. To learn more, visit nccam.nih.gov and ClinicalTrials.gov."

And no, please don't construe this as medical advice. It's just published information for whatever it is worth to you.

Best of luck to your friend, Mr. Appletree.

This post has been edited by Panama_Pete: Oct 13 2007, 01:49 PM

[appletree]

Dear Mr. Appletree:

Two words: chelation therapy.

http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4493

Personally, I would not wait till 2010 to see the results of this study if I had a problem now. I believe that the purple-haired lady on the other televangelist network has had this treatment for whatever reason.

"This study is being done because there is a public health need to conduct a large, well-designed clinical trial to find out if chelation therapy is safe and effective for treating people with coronary heart disease. If people use chelation therapy and it doesn’t work, they may be deprived of the well-established benefits from the many other valuable methods of treating these diseases, such as lifestyle modifications, medications and surgical procedures.

The trial is taking place at about 100 research sites across the United States and is testing EDTA chelation therapy by using the most widely practiced means of administering it. The trial began in 2003; patients receive 30 weekly intravenous treatments, then 10 more treatments given bimonthly, over a 28-month period. They also receive high doses of vitamins, which are also often given with chelation therapy. (The effect of such vitamin doses will also be examined in the trial.) The study is expected to be completed in 2010. To learn more, visit nccam.nih.gov and ClinicalTrials.gov."

And no, please don't construe this as medical advice. It's just published information for whatever it is worth to you.

Best of luck to your friend, Mr. Appletree.

Thanks Pete. Actually there are some that are looking into this very thing.

[Panama_Pete]

Dear Mr. Appletree:

Two words: chelation therapy.

http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4493

Personally, I would not wait till 2010 to see the results of this study if I had a problem now. I believe that the purple-haired lady on the other televangelist network has had this treatment for whatever reason.

"This study is being done because there is a public health need to conduct a large, well-designed clinical trial to find out if chelation therapy is safe and effective for treating people with coronary heart disease. If people use chelation therapy and it doesn’t work, they may be deprived of the well-established benefits from the many other valuable methods of treating these diseases, such as lifestyle modifications, medications and surgical procedures.

The trial is taking place at about 100 research sites across the United States and is testing EDTA chelation therapy by using the most widely practiced means of administering it. The trial began in 2003; patients receive 30 weekly intravenous treatments, then 10 more treatments given bimonthly, over a 28-month period. They also receive high doses of vitamins, which are also often given with chelation therapy. (The effect of such vitamin doses will also be examined in the trial.) The study is expected to be completed in 2010. To learn more, visit nccam.nih.gov and ClinicalTrials.gov."

And no, please don't construe this as medical advice. It's just published information for whatever it is worth to you.

Best of luck to your friend, Mr. Appletree.

Here's another link to check out:

http://nccam.nih.gov/chelation/

[Panama_Pete]

Thanks Pete. Actually there are some that are looking into this very thing.

The study sites are listed here, along with the contact numbers for referral.

http://nccam.nih.gov/chelation/studysite.htm#mo

To be referred to one of the sites please call 1-888-644-6226.
Habla Español. E-mail tactnih@msmc.com.

There are study sites in Canada, too.

http://nccam.nih.gov/chelation/studysitecan.htm

From Canada, call 305-674-2162 or e-mail tactnih@msmc.com.

[Noahswife]

Now let me tell you the facts. The stent was placed in a smaller artery that was 90% blocked. The 2 main arteries of the heart are the ones that are 50% blocked. The severity is that they are not just blocked they are lined with calcium and plaque to the degree that he is not even a candidate for bypass. This was decided several weeks after the stent and all the testing was finished. When you are not a candidate for bypass and the main arteries are closing up, the situation becomes very serious. I won't bother to detail the grimm outlook from the cardiac specialists.

So, if you all you sincere christians want to continue to make fun of this situation, go ahead, I can't stop you, but, it definitely reflects an "attitude" to the lurkers here.

Appletree,

For those of us who have some degree of medical knowledge, the question for me is where are the 50% blockages located in the arteries you refer to as "main arteries". Are they located in the first 1/3 of the affected arteries? In my experience this would be a better indicator of whether DS would be a candidate for cardiac artery bypass grafting when blockages are estimated to be below 70%. Another issue would be the size of any of the vessels that come off those "main arteries" and how well they are supplying blood to the rest of the heart tissue despite any blockages that have been found.

Another question for me would be the results of the most recent cardiac stress test and what stage it ended and if he showed any abnormal cardiac rhythms. Obviously there are other tests I could mention as well.

This is not an attempt to make light of an obvious serious situation. It is just the information I have read does not really give me an accurate picture of his cardiac condition nor do I expect to ever know that information.

Like many I wish him improved health and a long life.

nw

[SoulEspresso]

So, if you all you sincere christians want to continue to make fun of this situation, go ahead, I can't stop you, but, it definitely reflects an "attitude" to the lurkers here.

Brother Appletree, just because we want to see Danny come clean doesn't mean we want him to be in poor health. Goodness knows he's under a lot of stress without added worry about his heart. We're praying for his full recovery.