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[simplysaved]

Clay;

Isn't EVERYONE Simply Saved? By the way, I was quite flattered by the mix up.

[simplysaved]

Uh--NO, again!

SARAH is simplysaved and.... has been for almost 3 years here! Read the profile....

Fran are you SimplySaved? I thought it was illegal to have more than one account on BSDA.

[simplysaved]

Thanks!

SP, if you post a question in the forums, anyone can answer. If you want to ask SS personally to answer, PM her.

[simplysaved]

I agree....and so do I.

Fran happens to have a mind of her own and she is not afraid of stating her opinion. She even posts in her own name because she is not afraid of expressing her opinion.

[simplysaved]

GOD tells me who to support and who not to support...and I like what the Bible says about not telling your left hand what the right hand is doing.

Simplysaved, can 3ABN count on your increased contributions to help make this possible?

[Shiny Penny]

GOD tells me who to support and who not to support...and I like what the Bible says about not telling your left hand what the right hand is doing.

Oh yes, I fully agree.

Then too there is the pesky saying about putting one's money where one's mouth is.

[Johann]

I agree....and so do I.

Counting on you.

[LaurenceD]

Then too there is the pesky saying about putting one's money where one's mouth is.

Not only that...

After relating the parable, Christ said, "The children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light." That is, worldly-wise men display more wisdom and earnestness in serving themselves than do the professed children of God in their service to Him. So it was in Christ's day. So it is now. Look at the life of many who claim to be Christians. The Lord has endowed them with capabilities, and power, and influence; He has entrusted them with money, that they may be co-workers with Him in the great redemption. All His gifts are to be used in blessing humanity, in relieving the suffering and the needy. We are to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to care for the widow and the fatherless, to minister to the distressed and downtrodden. God never meant that the widespread misery in the world should exist. He never meant that one man should have an abundance of the luxuries of life, while the children of others should cry for bread. The means over and above the actual necessities of life are entrusted to man to do good, to bless humanity. The Lord says, "Sell that ye have, and give alms." Luke 12:33. Be "ready to distribute, willing to communicate." 1 Tim. 6:18. "When thou makest a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind." Luke 14:13. "Loose the bands of wickedness," "undo the heavy burdens," "let the oppressed go free,"

Alas, how many are appropriating to themselves the gifts of God! How many are adding house to house and land to land. How many are spending their money for pleasure, for the gratification of appetite, for extravagant houses, furniture, and dress. Their fellow beings are left to misery and crime, to disease and death. Multitudes are perishing without one pitying look, one word or deed of sympathy. {COL 371.1}

Men are guilty of robbery toward God. Their selfish use of means robs the Lord of the glory that should be reflected back to Him in the relief of suffering humanity and the salvation of souls. They are embezzling His entrusted goods. COL 371

So, if I'm understanding this correctly, those with money should take heed to the advice given above. Fair warning has been given.

[Johann]

Not only that...

After relating the parable, Christ said, "The children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light." That is, worldly-wise men display more wisdom and earnestness in serving themselves than do the professed children of God in their service to Him. So it was in Christ's day. So it is now. Look at the life of many who claim to be Christians. The Lord has endowed them with capabilities, and power, and influence; He has entrusted them with money, that they may be co-workers with Him in the great redemption. All His gifts are to be used in blessing humanity, in relieving the suffering and the needy. We are to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to care for the widow and the fatherless, to minister to the distressed and downtrodden. God never meant that the widespread misery in the world should exist. He never meant that one man should have an abundance of the luxuries of life, while the children of others should cry for bread. The means over and above the actual necessities of life are entrusted to man to do good, to bless humanity. The Lord says, "Sell that ye have, and give alms." Luke 12:33. Be "ready to distribute, willing to communicate." 1 Tim. 6:18. "When thou makest a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind." Luke 14:13. "Loose the bands of wickedness," "undo the heavy burdens," "let the oppressed go free,"

Alas, how many are appropriating to themselves the gifts of God! How many are adding house to house and land to land. How many are spending their money for pleasure, for the gratification of appetite, for extravagant houses, furniture, and dress. Their fellow beings are left to misery and crime, to disease and death. Multitudes are perishing without one pitying look, one word or deed of sympathy. {COL 371.1}

Men are guilty of robbery toward God. Their selfish use of means robs the Lord of the glory that should be reflected back to Him in the relief of suffering humanity and the salvation of souls. They are embezzling His entrusted goods. COL 371

So, if I'm understanding this correctly, those with money should take heed to the advice given above. Fair warning has been given.

This is very appropriate admonition and should be heeded. An important question is, how do we determine which of so many ministries claiming to be the storehouse is worthy of the claim? How do we determine? Do our feelings give us the needed knowledge? Does God give us appropriate guidelines on where our tithes and offerings are to be deposited?

This post has been edited by Johann: Nov 26 2007, 05:17 AM

[GRAT]

This is very appropriate admonition and should be heeded. An important question is, how do we determine which of so many ministries claiming to be the storehouse is worthy of the claim? How do we determine? Do our feelings give us the needed knowledge? Does God give us appropriate guidelines on where our tithes and offerings are to be deposited?

I think that as with most areas of our lives God expects us to use the brains and the common sense he gave us. We shouldn't follow like lemmings just because a ministry says it is doing good work. We need to look at all aspects of the ministry and determine if it is using the funds given to it wisely. Those asking for funds need to be open and honest as to how the funds are used so we can make an informed decision. If they will not be open then probably "something is rotten in Denmark".

I was talking to a
member of my church Sabbath and his 3ABN system is not working. He refuses to buy a new one because he will not support them because of "what they did to Linda Shelton". This may be a bit extreme because as his wife pointed out they could get Hope and LLUBN but he will not have one cent of his money going to support 3ABN.

For me the issue of where my tithe goes is settled but offerings are my responsibility to make informed decisions.

This post has been edited by GRAT: Nov 26 2007, 12:46 PM

[Rosyroi]

I think that as with most areas of our lives God expects us to use the brains and the common sense he gave us. We shouldn't follow like lemmings just because a ministry says it is doing good work. We need to look at all aspects of the ministry and determine if it is using the funds given to it wisely. Those asking for funds need to be open and honest as to how the funds are used so we can make an informed decision. If they will not be open then probably "something is rotten in Denmark".

I was talking to a
member of my church Sabbath and his 3ABN system is not working. He refuses to buy a new one because he will not support them because of "what they did to Linda Shelton". This may be a bit extreme because as his wife pointed out they could get Hope and LLUBN but he will not have one cent of his money going to support 3ABN.

For me the issue of where my tithe goes is settled but offerings are my responsibility to make informed decisions.

You can let your friend know that HOPE channel also sells satellite dishes that say HOPE on the dish. They offer the same programming that the 3ABN satellite dish does. Hoping that solves the dilema.

[GRAT]

You can let your friend know that HOPE channel also sells satellite dishes that say HOPE on the dish. They offer the same programming that the 3ABN satellite dish does. Hoping that solves the dilema.

Thank you! I will pass that info on.

[Johann]

I was talking to a member of my church Sabbath and his 3ABN system is not working. He refuses to buy a new one because he will not support them because of "what they did to Linda Shelton". This may be a bit extreme because as his wife pointed out they could get Hope and LLUBN but he will not have one cent of his money going to support 3ABN.

For me the issue of where my tithe goes is settled but offerings are my responsibility to make informed decisions.

What they did to Linda Shelton

I was just reading last night about a man who sat in prison for 18 years because of crimes - murders - committed by others. After his death he was exonerated by a court of justice. It was revealed he was hard of hearing and had not heard the questions the police asked him. His answers were the only evidence against him.

There have been many hearings in this case, but not a single one where Linda, nor any of her supporters were present. In this case all the answers given were by the false accusers. How can you call this justice?

Is it any wonder that donations to 3ABN has decreased as more and more people become aware of the miscarriage of justice that has taken place?

[GRAT]

What they did to Linda Shelton

I was just reading last night about a man who sat in prison for 18 years because of crimes - murders - committed by others. After his death he was exonerated by a court of justice. It was revealed he was hard of hearing and had not heard the questions the police asked him. His answers were the only evidence against him.

There have been many hearings in this case, but not a single one where Linda, nor any of her supporters were present. In this case all the answers given were by the false accusers. How can you call this justice?

Is it any wonder that donations to 3ABN has decreased as more and more people become aware of the miscarriage of justice that has taken place?

The interesting thing was that he had never heard of Save 3ABN (does now!) but had come to this from just watching.

[Johann]

The interesting thing was that he had never heard of Save 3ABN (does now!) but had come to this from just watching.

Truth has a way of getting through to honest people, thank God!