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 Feb 18 2008, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(appletree @ Feb 18 2008, 10:25 PM)  It has been established that she flew to Norway shortly after the divorce...WITHOUT Nathan. When Johann was ask why he said she needed her "friends" after such a trying time. "Friends?" I thought this was strictly a professional relationship? I wish that I had a doctor who would float me $100,000.00 to help me buy a house. Wow, what a guy. Many years ago I was in a hospital with TB in my back. (Possibly something I aqquired in Africa, they thought.) They called in a specialist. He happened to be the son of a famous Nobel Price winner in physics. The specialist was called in to examine me and dicover how serious the tubercolosis was. The provided tests and x-rays, which he took a peek at. He spent mosst of the time talking to me about all kinds of things, and then he stated it was deplorable he had not had the opportunity of getting better aquainted with me personally, then it would be easier for him to diagnose my disease. I supposse Appletree has never met that kind of a physician? When Arild treated Irmgard, I was there. I also noticed how he dealt with a number of other patients. He always talks with then about oher things that have seemingly nothing to do with their sickness. If you have ever read a book originally called The Ministry of Healing you will find references to this kind of treatment. But I cannot blame you if you have never heard of such physicians, and since you are only set on proving one point, and to villify so much you think took place. It is deplorable if some of us seem to retaliate by digging too deep into your personal affairs. It is a terrible way of paying back. Scripture tells us of gathering coals on the heads - in a different way. Romans 12:20 On the contrary: "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head." It would be so much easier to deal with you if we could, f. inst. discuss together how Ellen White speaks of ways to heal people - without a bias. -------------------- "Any fact that needs to be disclosed should be put out now or as quickly as possible, because otherwise the bleeding will not end." (Attributed to Henry Kissinger) "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it" (Martin Luther King)  "The truth can lose nothing by close investigation". (1888 Materials 38) |
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Feb 18 2008, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(appletree @ Feb 18 2008, 03:45 PM) SHINY PENNY take note: Why would people be "telling them" or asking "them" about marriage if they weren't presently together? I believe your question has been answered even though it was an accident on their part. Thanks for catching that and pointing it out to us. It was interesting that in all the conversation, not one person has said that there is absolutely no relationship between her and the doctor. Even Johann, who has vociferously argued that she had not visited with the doctor in 2004, hasn't said a peep about any more recent contact. Those who are Linda's ardent supporters don't want to hear anything that could sully their view of her, I suppose. There is a term for this..."escalating commitment" despite all evidence to the contrary. Perhaps it is time for someone to write an unauthorized history of Linda, 2003 - 2008! -------------------- --Shiny Penny--
My beloved friends, let us continue to love each other since love comes from God. Everyone who loves is born of God... The person who refuses to love doesn't know the first thing about God, because God is love—so you can't know him if you don't love. This is how God showed his love for us: God sent his only Son into the world so we might live through him. This is the kind of love we are talking about—not that we once upon a time loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as a sacrifice to clear away our sins and the damage they've done to our relationship with God. 1 John 4:7-10 (esaajr@asia.com) |
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Feb 18 2008, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(appletree @ Feb 18 2008, 10:45 PM) You told someone they didn't have "any such plans" yet? People are telling them they can get married by now? What are you talking about? This was strictly a professional relationship Johann. Remember? All about Nathan. How did it go from Nathan only to marriage talk? SHINY PENNY take note: Why would people be "telling them" or asking "them" about marriage if they weren't presently together? I believe your question has been answered even though it was an accident on their part. Yes, his question should be answered by now. I wasn't hidin' nothin'. Did I reveal too much by hinting at how brainwashed many people are by now by Danny Appletree's continued contentions? How long ago did he state as a fact that Linda and Arild were married in Norway? Many people read that, and some were naive anough to believe he was the kind of person whose words are dependable. Was this truth too hard? Perhaps I should have said it in a much softer way? Try to teach me how to do it! -------------------- "Any fact that needs to be disclosed should be put out now or as quickly as possible, because otherwise the bleeding will not end." (Attributed to Henry Kissinger) "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it" (Martin Luther King) "The truth can lose nothing by close investigation". (1888 Materials 38) |
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Feb 18 2008, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(Johann @ Feb 18 2008, 04:02 PM) ...then he stated it was deplorable he had not had the opportunity of getting better aquainted with me personally, then it would be easier for him to diagnose my disease. Aha! Now I understand. Arnild was getting better acquainted with Linda in order to make it easier to diagnose her disease.  Why did I think it was her son who was sick? That's a new one on me...next time I'll have to have my own mother get better acquainted with the doctor in order to relieve my condition! 
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My beloved friends, let us continue to love each other since love comes from God. Everyone who loves is born of God... The person who refuses to love doesn't know the first thing about God, because God is love—so you can't know him if you don't love. This is how God showed his love for us: God sent his only Son into the world so we might live through him. This is the kind of love we are talking about—not that we once upon a time loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as a sacrifice to clear away our sins and the damage they've done to our relationship with God. 1 John 4:7-10 (esaajr@asia.com) |
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Feb 18 2008, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(Johann @ Feb 18 2008, 04:27 PM) ...How long ago did he state as a fact that Linda and Arild were married in Norway?... Was this truth too hard? Perhaps I should have said it in a much softer way? Try to teach me how to do it! Don't worry about saying things in a softer way. Just give some proof for what you have said above. -------------------- --Shiny Penny--
My beloved friends, let us continue to love each other since love comes from God. Everyone who loves is born of God... The person who refuses to love doesn't know the first thing about God, because God is love—so you can't know him if you don't love. This is how God showed his love for us: God sent his only Son into the world so we might live through him. This is the kind of love we are talking about—not that we once upon a time loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as a sacrifice to clear away our sins and the damage they've done to our relationship with God. 1 John 4:7-10 (esaajr@asia.com) |
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Feb 18 2008, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(Shiny Penny @ Feb 18 2008, 11:11 PM) Even Johann, who has vociferously argued that she had not visited with the doctor in 2004, hasn't said a peep about any more recent contact. Perhaps it is time for someone to write an unauthorized history of Linda, 2003 - 2008! I have heard others state I'm supposed to have said Linda had not visited the doctor in 2004. I wonder who has made that claim? When did you hear me say that? You seem anxous to read that book? -------------------- "Any fact that needs to be disclosed should be put out now or as quickly as possible, because otherwise the bleeding will not end." (Attributed to Henry Kissinger) "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it" (Martin Luther King) "The truth can lose nothing by close investigation". (1888 Materials 38) |
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Feb 18 2008, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE(Shiny Penny @ Feb 18 2008, 11:27 PM) Aha! Now I understand. Arnild was getting better acquainted with Linda in order to make it easier to diagnose her disease. Why did I think it was her son who was sick? That's a new one on me...next time I'll have to have my own mother get better acquainted with the doctor in order to relieve my condition! You must be young, Shiny Penny. In my youth parents cared for their children. Is that no longer the Christian way to do things? -------------------- "Any fact that needs to be disclosed should be put out now or as quickly as possible, because otherwise the bleeding will not end." (Attributed to Henry Kissinger) "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it" (Martin Luther King) "The truth can lose nothing by close investigation". (1888 Materials 38) |
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Feb 18 2008, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE(Shiny Penny @ Feb 18 2008, 11:30 PM) Don't worry about saying things in a softer way. Just give some proof for what you have said above. You must be young at this? You were not around when Danny made that statement? I even heard a number of people making the statement that Linda and Arild were married. So I asked them where they heard such a thing. They answered that Danny had said it, so it must be true! This post has been edited by Johann: Feb 18 2008, 05:55 PM -------------------- "Any fact that needs to be disclosed should be put out now or as quickly as possible, because otherwise the bleeding will not end." (Attributed to Henry Kissinger) "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it" (Martin Luther King) "The truth can lose nothing by close investigation". (1888 Materials 38) |
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Feb 18 2008, 05:54 PM
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Wow, what a crowd. You think the two of them have all their complimentary computers on?
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Feb 18 2008, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(LaurenceD @ Feb 18 2008, 11:54 PM) Wow, what a crowd. You think the two of them have all their complimentary computers on? All of the two of us, if you know what they mean! -------------------- "Any fact that needs to be disclosed should be put out now or as quickly as possible, because otherwise the bleeding will not end." (Attributed to Henry Kissinger) "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it" (Martin Luther King) "The truth can lose nothing by close investigation". (1888 Materials 38) |
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Feb 18 2008, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(Shiny Penny @ Feb 18 2008, 04:27 PM) Aha! Now I understand. Arnild was getting better acquainted with Linda in order to make it easier to diagnose her disease. Why did I think it was her son who was sick? That's a new one on me...next time I'll have to have my own mother get better acquainted with the doctor in order to relieve my condition! Nathan was being treated for substance abuse. Treatment for substance abuse is typically most effective when all members of the famly are in treatment. Treatment of the family system is very importrant to treating an individual for substance abuse. So, Shinny Penny, if you need substance abuse treatment and your mother is a part of your family system, it would be best for your mother to become involved with the treatment team. -------------------- Gregory Matthews posts here under the name "Observer."
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Feb 18 2008, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(Johann @ Feb 18 2008, 04:46 PM) I have heard others state I'm supposed to have said Linda had not visited the doctor in 2004. I wonder who has made that claim? When did you hear me say that? You seem anxous to read that book? QUOTE(Johann @ Feb 14 2008, 02:53 PM) You sure are spinninng here, Ian. Yes, I still claim Walt is a liar if he states Linda was in Europe before the divorce in 2004 - except her trip together with Brenda in February. Did I misunderstand? You seem very much aware of Linda's travels in 2004. -------------------- --Shiny Penny--
My beloved friends, let us continue to love each other since love comes from God. Everyone who loves is born of God... The person who refuses to love doesn't know the first thing about God, because God is love—so you can't know him if you don't love. This is how God showed his love for us: God sent his only Son into the world so we might live through him. This is the kind of love we are talking about—not that we once upon a time loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as a sacrifice to clear away our sins and the damage they've done to our relationship with God. 1 John 4:7-10 (esaajr@asia.com) |
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Feb 18 2008, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(Observer @ Feb 18 2008, 04:57 PM) Nathan was being treated for substance abuse. Treatment for substance abuse is typically most effective when all members of the famly are in treatment. Treatment of the family system is very importrant to treating an individual for substance abuse. So, Shinny Penny, if you need substance abuse treatment and your mother is a part of your family system, it would be best for your mother to become involved with the treatment team. Seems to me, that in this case there was very special treatment for the mother and treatment for Nathan...but no evidence of any attempt to treat or include anyone else in the family system. Aren't physicians supposed to keep a professional distance in the treatment of their patients? -------------------- --Shiny Penny--
My beloved friends, let us continue to love each other since love comes from God. Everyone who loves is born of God... The person who refuses to love doesn't know the first thing about God, because God is love—so you can't know him if you don't love. This is how God showed his love for us: God sent his only Son into the world so we might live through him. This is the kind of love we are talking about—not that we once upon a time loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as a sacrifice to clear away our sins and the damage they've done to our relationship with God. 1 John 4:7-10 (esaajr@asia.com) |
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Feb 18 2008, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(Johann @ Feb 18 2008, 04:52 PM) I even heard a number of people making the statement that Linda and Arild were married. So I asked them where they heard such a thing. They answered that Danny had said it, so it must be true! Yes, I've heard similar gossips... This post has been edited by Shiny Penny: Feb 18 2008, 06:25 PM -------------------- --Shiny Penny--
My beloved friends, let us continue to love each other since love comes from God. Everyone who loves is born of God... The person who refuses to love doesn't know the first thing about God, because God is love—so you can't know him if you don't love. This is how God showed his love for us: God sent his only Son into the world so we might live through him. This is the kind of love we are talking about—not that we once upon a time loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as a sacrifice to clear away our sins and the damage they've done to our relationship with God. 1 John 4:7-10 (esaajr@asia.com) |
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Feb 18 2008, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE(Shiny Penny @ Feb 19 2008, 12:10 AM) Did I misunderstand? You seem very much aware of Linda's travels in 2004. Put your glasses on and read the last part of my statement. It is nothing but the truth. Yes, I am aware of her travels, because she visited us whenever she came after that first visit to Norway together with Brenda - until Irmgard died. And she was even there for her funeral. Do you not notice who comes to visit you? -------------------- "Any fact that needs to be disclosed should be put out now or as quickly as possible, because otherwise the bleeding will not end." (Attributed to Henry Kissinger) "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it" (Martin Luther King) "The truth can lose nothing by close investigation". (1888 Materials 38) |
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