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> An Unauthorized History of 3ABN, Chapter 5 (thread was closed then reopened)
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post May 5 2006, 06:59 AM
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I'm just waiting for someone to say that Danny Shelton's books were ghost written; then, I believe, I would have heard it all... smile.gif


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post May 5 2006, 07:08 AM
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We have believed the lie that the modern church, by virtue of having the name, is God's representative on earth even though we will sponsor seminars and conferences to denounce the Catholic church for claiming that its head is God's representative on earth. Figure me this. How many ways are there to spell "hoodwinked?"
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QUOTE(statrei @ May 5 2006, 01:08 PM) [snapback]129377[/snapback]

We have believed the lie that the modern church, by virtue of having the name, is God's representative on earth even though we will sponsor seminars and conferences to denounce the Catholic church for claiming that its head is God's representative on earth. Figure me this. How many ways are there to spell "hoodwinked?"


But you see the RCC is not the true church when you are the true church you can claim just about anything and see all criticism of your institituion as criticism of the Lord's work rolleyes.gif


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post May 5 2006, 07:27 AM
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I don't believe that if 3ABN is brought down that the church will also fall... and if it does, then it should because it has attached itself to someone other than Christ....


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QUOTE(caribbean sda @ May 5 2006, 07:59 AM) [snapback]129375[/snapback]

I'm just waiting for someone to say that Danny Shelton's books were ghost written; then, I believe, I would have heard it all... smile.gif


I am not saying that the ideas are not Dannys but, the way that he talks, the books do seem to be edited for word sentence, spelling and punctuation. I received a lengthy e-mail from him when all this began--probably cut and paste, and the way the books are written are different than his usual expressions. But then, this is true of most authors.

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QUOTE(summertime @ May 5 2006, 07:28 AM) [snapback]129381[/snapback]

I am not saying that the ideas are not Dannys but, the way that he talks, the books do seem to be edited for word sentence, spelling and punctuation. I received a lenthy e-mail from him when all this began--probably cut and paste, and the way the books are written are different than his usual expressions. But then, this is true of most authors.

it wouldn't be the first time in the history of this church that the words of an uneducated person were miraculously transformed into literary masterpieces..... dunno.gif

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QUOTE(Clay @ May 5 2006, 09:01 AM) [snapback]129384[/snapback]

it wouldn't be the first time in the history of this church that the words of an uneducated person were miraculously transformed into literary masterpieces..... dunno.gif


Are you comparing Danny Shelton to Ellen White? With the implication that the writings of
Danny are “miraculously transformed into literary masterpieces”? What next? Continuing on that same line of reasoning, is your next proclamation the possibility that Danny is a prophet? Of course followed by: dunno.gif

Have mercy! I thought that spin only originated from within the walls of 3ABN.
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QUOTE(sister @ May 5 2006, 09:19 AM) [snapback]129389[/snapback]

Are you comparing Danny Shelton to Ellen White? With the implication that the writings of
Danny are “miraculously transformed into literary masterpieces”? What next? Continuing on that same line of reasoning, is your next proclamation the possibility that Danny is a prophet? Of course followed by: dunno.gif

Have mercy! I thought that spin only originated from within the walls of 3ABN.

nope I am suggesting that there is a parallel.... we have discussed extensively here how the writings of egw have been edited significantly from how she wrote them originally, not to mention all the books that have been published in her name after her death.... The church did that... so it seems that they and Danny have something in common....

As for Mr. Shelton being a prophet, I have no idea... he sounds like a man with too much money and too much time on his hands... but I don't know him so I can't say....


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QUOTE(caribbean sda @ May 5 2006, 06:59 AM) [snapback]129375[/snapback]

I'm just waiting for someone to say that Danny Shelton's books were ghost written; then, I believe, I would have heard it all... smile.gif

Danny does not have the time, attention span or knowledge of anything to write about anything except serial marriages. However, ghost writing is a well-accepted practice for busy celebrities and public figures. It is a non-issue as far as I am concerned, as is how much money he makes from this.


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QUOTE(Zephyr @ May 5 2006, 09:26 AM) [snapback]129393[/snapback]

Danny does not have the time, attention span or knowledge of anything to write about anything except serial marriages. However, ghost writing is a well-accepted practice for busy celebrities and public figures. It is a non-issue as far as I am concerned, as is how much money he makes from this.

true.... if the sda church has made a faustian deal with Mr. Shelton then I hope they are prepared to deal with the fallout.... it wouldnt be the 1st time a faustian deal was entered into by the church.....



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true.... if the sda church has made a faustian deal with Mr. Shelton then I hope they are prepared to deal with the fallout.... it wouldnt be the 1st time a faustian deal was entered into by the church.....

I don't believe the church made any such bargain. 3ABN is privately owned and operated by people who identify with the SDA church. I agree the church is not doing enough to disabuse viewres of the notion that 3ABN is an "arm" or "face" of the church. That is a big mistake that I hope they correct quickly.


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QUOTE(Zephyr @ May 5 2006, 02:04 PM) [snapback]129452[/snapback]

I don't believe the church made any such bargain. 3ABN is privately owned and operated by people who identify with the SDA church. I agree the church is not doing enough to disabuse viewres of the notion that 3ABN is an "arm" or "face" of the church. That is a big mistake that I hope they correct quickly.

I don't see 3abn as the face of the church. It is another independent minsitry.
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I don't see 3abn as the face of the church. It is another independent minsitry.

How many Adventists do you think make that distinction?
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Or worse yet, how many non-Adventist? For those who do not have your unique perspective, Calvin, the line is blurred if not erased altogether.



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How many Adventists do you think make that distinction?


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QUOTE(calvin @ May 5 2006, 04:06 PM) [snapback]129456[/snapback]

I don't see 3abn as the face of the church. It is another independent minsitry.

You and many Adventists may not, but 3ABN is on satellite, broadcast TV and cable around the world, available in many millions of homes 24/7. The Adventist Church to them is just a building on some corner where people meet every Saturday, and the general population doesn't go, and has no idea what is taught there. The only place most of them will ever see Seventh-day Adventism is 3ABN, which makes it the face of the church to them: the general public.

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