 Dr. Arild Abrahamsen Speaks Out For Himself And Linda |
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 Jul 16 2006, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(PrincessDrRe @ Jul 16 2006, 11:40 AM) [snapback]139693[/snapback] What about sending the letter directly to churches pastors - directly.  .....  You asked a question. If you didn't want anyone to "answer it" why ask it in the first place? I was just answering a post - that you posted. Whose "publishing" is not that deep; however questions were asked as to "who" was actually publishing..... again - If you don't want anyone to answer a question per se - write it so the sarcasm is/can be seen. There are folks on here that read every post and try to answer/point people in the correct direction. That's all I tried to do in regards to publishing and information about publishing. I too am glad that the letter is being published/released/"issued" - and could care less who is doing the publishing/releasing/"issuing" as long as it is the (finally!) reached truth. BOT!  I apologize that the sarcasm was not as obvious to the general reader as it was to me. Point well taken. Future posts--indeed, if there be any--authored by me will be more succint, direct and obvious to even the most casual observer. |
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Jul 16 2006, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(Siriss @ Jul 16 2006, 01:51 PM) [snapback]139707[/snapback] I apologize that the sarcasm was not as obvious to the general reader as it was to me. Point well taken. Future posts--indeed, if there be any--authored by me will be more succint, direct and obvious to even the most casual observer. Being that others besides myself were even trying to define publishing - you can see where you were not as clear as you could have been in your sarcasm. Apology accepted! After all - the actual point of the OP was to "get out the word of the matter" - regardless as to who/whom is publishing! I would like to post it at AU....what do others think about that?
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Jul 16 2006, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(PrincessDrRe @ Jul 16 2006, 12:53 PM) [snapback]139708[/snapback] Being that others besides myself were even trying to define publishing - you can see where you were not as clear as you could have been in your sarcasm. Apology accepted! After all - the actual point of the OP was to "get out the word of the matter" - regardless as to who/whom is publishing! I would like to post it at AU....what do others think about that? You go gurl. They need to hear it at AU. Afterwards you can fetch some sodie and join me in some fried meaty bits.  |
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Jul 16 2006, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(sister @ Jul 16 2006, 04:44 PM) [snapback]139766[/snapback] You go gurl. They need to hear it at AU. Afterwards you can fetch some sodie and join me in some fried meaty bits. Cool. I think the first place it should go is to the Seminary Building.... I'm gonna forward it on to some of my SDA Seminary friends right now..... Uh-oh..... 
-------------------- *"Some folks use their ignorance like a umbrella. It covers everything, they perodically take it out from time to time, but it never is too far away from them."*
PrincessDrRe; March, 2007 ~"Blood = Meat, Face = Meat, Internal "Organs" = Meat - you can try to make it cuter; but it's still meat...."~ PrincessDrRe; September, 2007 *(NOTE: Any advice given by Re' Silvey, MSW is not to be taken as medical/mental health advice. Although trained to be a counselor, currently employed as a therapist, and currently pursuing her PhD in Counseling Psychology (ABD/I) - she is not your assigned therapist. Please consult a mental health professional of your choice for a face-to-face consultation.)* |
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Jul 16 2006, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(PrincessDrRe @ Jul 16 2006, 02:50 PM) [snapback]139769[/snapback] Cool. I think the first place it should go is to the Seminary Building.... I'm gonna forward it on to some of my SDA Seminary friends right now..... Uh-oh..... I'm curious as to what the "Uh-oh" means. |
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Jul 16 2006, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(watchbird @ Jul 16 2006, 04:55 PM) [snapback]139788[/snapback] I'm curious as to what the "Uh-oh" means. There are many supporters of Danny there - *(remember he and the new "Missie" were just here recently...) Now mind you the church wasn't as full as one would have expected...but they have "support" here.... I'm jes wondering how the mess is gonna blow when it hits the fan. I know we discussed it in my ethic class and a Seminary student that was in the class got "quite hot" under the collar - until he heard the instructor speak of the actions of Kuzma being "unethical".... I don't know if he has been here or not - as I did put the website on the board for all to see... We are jes a "hot mess on toast" when it comes to getting called on our own mess. You know, we like to take a big ol' broom and sweep it under the biggest rug...beating the lump down.... That's what my "Uh-oh" is coming from - I think I may even work on a play that includes pieces of this..... NOW THAT'S another "Uh-oh" waiting to happen at Ay..... -------------------- *"Some folks use their ignorance like a umbrella. It covers everything, they perodically take it out from time to time, but it never is too far away from them."*
PrincessDrRe; March, 2007 ~"Blood = Meat, Face = Meat, Internal "Organs" = Meat - you can try to make it cuter; but it's still meat...."~ PrincessDrRe; September, 2007 *(NOTE: Any advice given by Re' Silvey, MSW is not to be taken as medical/mental health advice. Although trained to be a counselor, currently employed as a therapist, and currently pursuing her PhD in Counseling Psychology (ABD/I) - she is not your assigned therapist. Please consult a mental health professional of your choice for a face-to-face consultation.)* |
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Jul 16 2006, 11:43 PM
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QUOTE(PrincessDrRe @ Jul 16 2006, 06:04 PM) [snapback]139791[/snapback] There are many supporters of Danny there - *(remember he and the new "Missie" were just here recently...) Now mind you the church wasn't as full as one would have expected...but they have "support" here.... I'm jes wondering how the mess is gonna blow when it hits the fan. I know we discussed it in my ethic class and a Seminary student that was in the class got "quite hot" under the collar - until he heard the instructor speak of the actions of Kuzma being "unethical".... I don't know if he has been here or not - as I did put the website on the board for all to see... We are jes a "hot mess on toast" when it comes to getting called on our own mess. You know, we like to take a big ol' broom and sweep it under the biggest rug...beating the lump down.... That's what my "Uh-oh" is coming from - I think I may even work on a play that includes pieces of this..... NOW THAT'S another "Uh-oh" waiting to happen at Ay..... Speak the truth and shame the devil!!!!! -------------------- Visit my blog--"Musings of a Black Scrapbooker"
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Jul 17 2006, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(Panama_Pete @ Jul 14 2006, 01:45 PM) [snapback]139380[/snapback] There would be no reason to waste your time on the [b]3ABN Board of Followers . They are followers, Johann. They direct nothing that I can see. The Chairman of the 3ABN Board of Followers is, most likely, at the point where he can no longer entertain any other versions than the ones he has allowed to be published under his name. A copy, signed by Dr. Arild Abrahamsen, should be mailed to the [b]Adventist Today mailing address.[/b] I have just sent a copy of an email of the letter to "Adventist Today" |
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Jul 17 2006, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(icedragon @ Jul 17 2006, 04:52 PM) [snapback]139885[/snapback] I have just sent a copy of an email of the letter to [b]"Adventist Today" I doubt they will publish and be damned -------------------- Queen Den
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Jul 17 2006, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(beartrap @ Jul 15 2006, 04:27 PM) [snapback]139526[/snapback] In most cases it is part of the evangelism budget. I would think that contacting your own pastor, and then the office of the President at the local conference, the union, the division, and the GC with your objections would be the proper, and most effective way to make a difference. I would put it in writing and be reasonable, yet persistent. And if the Conference Officials don't wish to listen, mention "Mission Catalyst". The new Adventist Church growth outreach started by former Church Planter, Ron Gladden, where 90% of the tithe funds stay with the local church to further the work. You can bet those tithe funds aren't being allocated to 3ABN for Danny Shelton to fly around in a jet. |
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Jul 17 2006, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(icedragon @ Jul 17 2006, 05:52 PM) [snapback]139885[/snapback] I have just sent a copy of an email of the letter to [b]"Adventist Today" God bless you, Icedragon! We need more people like you! This post has been edited by Johann: Jul 17 2006, 05:15 PM -------------------- "Any fact that needs to be disclosed should be put out now or as quickly as possible, because otherwise the bleeding will not end." (Attributed to Henry Kissinger) "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it" (Martin Luther King)  "The truth can lose nothing by close investigation". (1888 Materials 38) |
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Jul 17 2006, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE(Johann @ Jul 15 2006, 09:18 PM) [snapback]139573[/snapback] Good to see you out there, sonshineonme. I can assure you that great efforts are being done to send this letter to as many as possible. And we know now that it is being discussed among church leaders in different parts of the world. But much more can be done - so keep sending them out! And leave them in the hands of responsible people and everyone else! I hope that we are all following up on getting this letter out---I have been going through all my e-mail addresses and sending it out. I am sending them to church members and doing everything I can---even though I am pretty much housebound right now my spare time is spent 'spreading the word'----I hope that it is spreading quickly--The truth needs to be told quickly. |
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Jul 17 2006, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(summertime @ Jul 18 2006, 02:03 AM) [snapback]140010[/snapback] I hope that we are all following up on getting this letter out---I have been going through all my e-mail addresses and sending it out. I am sending them to church members and doing everything I can---even though I am pretty much housebound right now my spare time is spent 'spreading the word'----I hope that it is spreading quickly--The truth needs to be told quickly. God bless you! -------------------- "Any fact that needs to be disclosed should be put out now or as quickly as possible, because otherwise the bleeding will not end." (Attributed to Henry Kissinger) "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it" (Martin Luther King) "The truth can lose nothing by close investigation". (1888 Materials 38) |
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Jul 17 2006, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE(Rand856 @ Jul 17 2006, 02:04 PM) [snapback]139902[/snapback] And if the Conference Officials don't wish to listen, mention "Mission Catalyst". The new Adventist Church growth outreach started by former Church Planter, Ron Gladden, where 90% of the tithe funds stay with the local church to further the work. You can bet those tithe funds aren't being allocated to 3ABN for Danny Shelton to fly around in a jet. Mission Catalyst isn't part of the Adventist church, although those who started it were formerly in denominational employ. Their unwillingness to adopt the church's model where the handling of tithe is concerned pretty much sealed their fate in that regard... I now return you to your regularly scheduled programming... In His service, Mr. J -------------------- There is no one more dangerous than one who thinks he knows God with a mind that is ignorant - Dr. Lewis Anthony
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Jul 17 2006, 07:44 PM
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Seems to me Awesumtenor, that Rand856 was implying that if the SDA Officials do not watch it, more funds will go into Mission Catalyst than the regular SDA Church. Correct me if I am wrong, Rand 856.
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