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 Jan 26 2007, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE(Hersheys99 @ Jan 26 2007, 08:49 PM) [snapback]173039[/snapback] That & she wasn't an employee she was cofounder of 3ABN. She was an employee and 3ABN issued her a W2 form every year to proof it! |
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Jan 26 2007, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(Hersheys99 @ Jan 26 2007, 08:49 PM) [snapback]173039[/snapback] That & she wasn't an employee she was cofounder of 3ABN. for putting up with his MESS she wasn't hardly compensated enough.... where is Madea when you need her? Putting up with his mess for 2 decades... naw.... not even... 
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Jan 26 2007, 09:05 PM
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Yea, flying around in a private jet with Danny was tough goings. 3ABN is a business, she worked at the busness and got paid. If the 250K was not enough she should have negoiated better.
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Jan 26 2007, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE(calvin @ Jan 26 2007, 09:05 PM) [snapback]173043[/snapback] Yea, flying around in a private jet with Danny was tough goings. 3ABN is a business, she worked at the busness and got paid. If the 250K was not enough she should have negoiated better. for dealing with his continual put downs, controlling chauvinistic ways.... 250k over 24 months wasn't even a drop in the bucket.... -------------------- "you are as sick as your secrets...." -quote from Celebrity Rehab-
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Jan 26 2007, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE(Clay @ Jan 26 2007, 09:08 PM) [snapback]173045[/snapback] for dealing with his continual put downs, controlling chauvinistic ways.... 250k over 24 months wasn't even a drop in the bucket.... Good point Steve, I concede. Hard to put a price on having to go through that mess. |
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Jan 26 2007, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(calvin @ Jan 26 2007, 09:14 PM) [snapback]173046[/snapback] Good point Steve, I concede. Hard to put a price on having to go through that mess. which may be why she didn't negotiate better... he had her convinced that she wasn't worth anything..... 
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Jan 26 2007, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(inga @ Jan 26 2007, 08:08 PM) [snapback]173026[/snapback] Hey, don't you men go claiming Andi as your own. It says "Gender 'f'' beneath her name. That makes her a new gal with spunk !   Andi,  Thanks for your welcome and I am a female. I dislike mean people and this is why I have "chimed" in on this thread. |
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Jan 26 2007, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(Clay @ Jan 26 2007, 09:21 PM) [snapback]173047[/snapback] which may be why she didn't negotiate better... he had her convinced that she wasn't worth anything..... The $250K was within industry standards. My company pays one month salary for every year of service, that is if you don't have an employment contract. If you have an employment contract, they you can negotiate anything you want when hired. So it was fair initially. But in hindsight, with 3ABN acting unethical after she was fired, it was not |
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Jan 26 2007, 09:31 PM
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Let's remember that someone made the decision a long time ago that they wanted the benefits of being a not for profit corporation. After reading the AT article mentioned in the So Let it Be Written thread and elsewhere in this forum, it is clear Danny is demonstrating he does not understand he does not own 3ABN. The article mentions his pride in having no formal education beyond high school. It does not sound like he is getting good legal advise either.
Several days ago on another thread I asked a question of the readers...."whom do you think the 3ABN board owes a fiduciary duty?" I would suggest you read the following article from Non-Proft Quarterly and think about whether the Board is meeting its legal and ethical/moral responsibilities given all the information set out here and elsewhere.... http://www.nonprofitquarterly.org/section/341.html noahswife And yes, the problem I see with the contract has nothing to do with money due Linda for loss of employment..... This post has been edited by Noahswife: Jan 26 2007, 10:36 PM -------------------- “I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else.” C.S. Lewis
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Jan 26 2007, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(Noahswife @ Jan 26 2007, 09:31 PM) [snapback]173051[/snapback] Let's remember that someone made the decision a long time ago that they wanted the benefits of being a not for profit corporation. After reading the AT article mentioned in the So Let it Be Written thread and elsewhere in this forum, it is clear Danny is demonstrating he does not understand he does not own 3ABN. The article mentions his pride in having no formal education beyond high school. It does not sound like he is getting good legal advise either. Several days ago on another thread I asked a question of the readers...."whom do you think the 3ABN board owes a fiduciary duty?" I would suggest you read the following article from Non-Proft Quarterly and think about whether the Board is meeting its legal responsibilities given all the information set out here and elsewhere.... http://www.nonprofitquarterly.org/section/341.html noahswife And yes, the problem I see with the contract has nothing to do with money due Linda for loss of employment..... Another site to check for the standards of the Board is Give.org. This site is by the Better Business Bureau |
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Jan 26 2007, 10:47 PM
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Ok?!!!!
QUOTE(Clay @ Jan 26 2007, 06:55 PM) [snapback]173042[/snapback] for putting up with his MESS she wasn't hardly compensated enough.... where is Madea when you need her? Putting up with his mess for 2 decades... naw.... not even... -------------------- TTFN
Di And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose---Romans 8:28 A great many people believe they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.-- William James It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.- Mark Twain |
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Jan 26 2007, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE(calvin @ Jan 26 2007, 09:30 PM) [snapback]173050[/snapback] The $250K was within industry standards. My company pays one month salary for every year of service, that is if you don't have an employment contract. If you have an employment contract, they you can negotiate anything you want when hired. So it was fair initially. But in hindsight, with 3ABN acting unethical after she was fired, it was not You are right-there is no ownership or shareholders because this is a not for profit organization. I still disagree on fair compensation. If a person is one of the original founders of a ministry that has net assets worth approx. 19,500,000 at the end of 2005-No way is 250k fair. I know she doesn't have any legal entitlements to compensation but come on Fair. |
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Jan 26 2007, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE(inga @ Jan 26 2007, 09:08 PM) [snapback]173026[/snapback] Hey, don't you men go claiming Andi as your own. It says "Gender 'f'' beneath her name. That makes her a new gal with spunk ! Andi,  HOTY sorry! 
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Jan 26 2007, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE(husbandoftheyear @ Jan 26 2007, 11:49 PM) [snapback]173071[/snapback] HOTY sorry! HOTY-No Problem 
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Jan 27 2007, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE(andithomas1 @ Jan 27 2007, 12:56 AM) [snapback]173073[/snapback] HOTY-No Problem  (BTW, this is how I have had such a wonderful marriage. I'm usually in this position!) This post has been edited by husbandoftheyear: Jan 27 2007, 12:07 AM -------------------- "The pure and simple truth is rarely pure and never simple."
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