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> Hi From Barbara Kerr In Norway, A love letter to all
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post Mar 9 2007, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE(Bystander @ Mar 9 2007, 01:35 PM) [snapback]184209[/snapback]

There is no justification for this forum topic or the others that are going on.

This forum topic is "Hi From Barbara Kerr in Norway". How do you find that unjustified? As mentioned earlier, this has been a topic filled with words of meditation on the beauties of nature and healing that Barbara Kerr and others have been sharing. It meant a lot to a newbie, hollybygolly. Instead of rejoicing in the wonders seen, you and Aletheia have used it as a forum for more of your obfuscation. That is what is unjustified, brother Bystander.

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It is a shame and a disgrace to be forced to have to come here to defend what is true just so the anonymous readers
will not just see one side filled with holes and lies.


IMO, you are inadvertantly accomplishing what you are ashamed and disgraced by doing. You are magnifying, clearly showing, the truth we others are speaking. You are demonstrating to the anonymous readers that you and your like-minded posters will use whatever low tactics it takes to try to divert the attention of truth seekers from the truth. It is not working out as you planned. The truth is being exposed.


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QUOTE(PeacefullyBewildered @ Mar 9 2007, 04:04 PM) [snapback]184221[/snapback]

This forum topic is "Hi From Barbara Kerr in Norway". How do you find that unjustified? As mentioned earlier, this has been a topic filled with words of meditation on the beauties of nature and healing that Barbara Kerr and others have been sharing. It meant a lot to a newbie, hollybygolly. Instead of rejoicing in the wonders seen, you and Aletheia have used it as a forum for more of your obfuscation. That is what is unjustified, brother Bystander.
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Now look at your posts starting with your reply to hollygolly, and see how many "words of meditation on the beauties of nature and healing" you wrote.


Now, what were you, and are, you writing about instead?

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post Mar 9 2007, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE(Aletheia @ Mar 9 2007, 01:58 PM) [snapback]184218[/snapback]

Thank you Bystander.

I have been troubled by many of those kind of remarks, especially when they are made about people who aren't even here or are unable to answer. I did indeed hurt for you when your Mothers death was made a subject of insult and ridicule.

The only reason to rebuke sin or reprove error should be because of love for the souls of others, as you said there is a concern also for the readers who might become confused or deceived by distorted and twisted stories, and even outright lying.

Stand firm, and Keep your head up, there's nothing wrong with defending the truth. We were never warned about that...

Blessings...


This is just a taste of what is to come when the whole world turns on us for what we believe. In the meantime, I will continue to stand for what I know is truth.
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post Mar 9 2007, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(Aletheia @ Mar 9 2007, 01:58 PM) [snapback]184218[/snapback]


The only reason to rebuke sin or reprove error should be because of love for the souls of others, as you said there is a concern also for the readers who might become confused or deceived by distorted and twisted stories, and even outright lying.

Stand firm, and Keep your head up, there's nothing wrong with defending the truth. We were never warned about that...

Blessings...

Bingo! If you have read many of my posts, you will know that this is why I am here. I do have a love for the souls involved. I care deeply for the souls of those the SDA church and 3abn are attempting to reach with the Gospel as well as for Danny, Linda, Tommy, the Shelton family, FHB, Lee, wwjd, Bystander, the alleged victims of Tommy, the employees who have been mistreated or who are witness to unChristian behavior and you, too, Cindy.

Just keep in mind that the ends doesn't justify the means when defending the truth. If you cover up the truth in order to defend a loved one, that is wrong. If you try to call the truth a lie, that is also wrong. If you try to cloud the truth to keep it from being clearly seen, that is a lie and it is wrong.

QUOTE(Aletheia @ Mar 9 2007, 02:10 PM) [snapback]184222[/snapback]

Now look at your posts starting with your reply to hollygolly, and see how many "words of meditation on the beauties of nature and healing" you wrote.
Now, what were you, and are, you writing about instead?

Still looks to me like I was trying to encourage a disheartened sister.


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Cindy, please don't make me hurt your feelings only hours before the Sabbath, so the first thing you need to do is take it down a notch or two. I am not the one. Now that can either happen in your next post on BSDA, or I can arrange some time out if needed. Now, if you feel the need to show examples, PM them to Calvin and/or the admin staff. I said you were not going to further disrupt and distract from the purpose of this thread and mean each and every word. This is your last post here, unless you are going to give words of support and encouragement to the OP. This thread is not about defending 3ABN.

***For everyone else Cindy slammed in this post, please do not further disrupt this thread and answer her here***


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Since we're being so frank Here, Diane. This has gone on long enough.

I quoted an article from Ellen White because Pb's post to a newcomer warranted that rebuke.in my view, and I consider it a timely warning to all who are engaged in the business of trying to bring down a ministry and their brethren in an unbilical and unchristlike manner, when God's word is plain.

Now if you disagree with that, fine.

But don't come leapfrogging over the condemnations and accusations which you agree with, ( which are neither to, or about barbara Kerr, nor uplifting at all) to land square on me, while ignoring all others once again, and thinking yourself justified and righteous here when what you are doing is being biased, and partial and is outright sin.

You have a right to your opinions as a poster, but I hold you to a higher standard here, as you are also an administrator and so when posting should be an example to those you moderate, and lead by that example.

Because sister, from where I am sitting, IMO considering the venom you've spit at me since I first arrived, it looks like you see poison, because you are blinded by the poison in your own heart and mind, and the poison all around you which you wilfully turn a blind eye to, or condone and justify.

Your friends Mr J, and his wife, Sera, Sister, Fran, etc etc etc.. never seem to get one cross word from you, nor do many others who say ugly things, nasty , poisonous things, and you don't even blink at it, not one cross word, not one reproof...

... want some examples?
I perceive that God is no respector of persons.
Jam 2:
8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one [point], he is guilty of all.
11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.

Barring an apology or acknowledgment from you about all this, then this is the last response you'll ever get from me.

May you find what you seek.
Cindy



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QUOTE(PeacefullyBewildered @ Mar 9 2007, 11:17 PM) [snapback]184225[/snapback]

Bingo! If you have read many of my posts, you will know that this is why I am here. I do have a love for the souls involved. I care deeply for the souls of those the SDA church and 3abn are attempting to reach with the Gospel as well as for Danny, Linda, Tommy, the Shelton family, FHB, Lee, wwjd, Bystander, the alleged victims of Tommy, the employees who have been mistreated or who are witness to unChristian behavior and you, too, Cindy.

Just keep in mind that the ends doesn't justify the means when defending the truth. If you cover up the truth in order to defend a loved one, that is wrong. If you try to call the truth a lie, that is also wrong. If you try to cloud the truth to keep it from being clearly seen, that is a lie and it is wrong.
Still looks to me like I was trying to encourage a disheartened sister.

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QUOTE(PeacefullyBewildered @ Mar 9 2007, 02:04 PM) [snapback]184221[/snapback]

This forum topic is "Hi From Barbara Kerr in Norway". How do you find that unjustified? As mentioned earlier, this has been a topic filled with words of meditation on the beauties of nature and healing that Barbara Kerr and others have been sharing. It meant a lot to a newbie, hollybygolly. Instead of rejoicing in the wonders seen, you and Aletheia have used it as a forum for more of your obfuscation. That is what is unjustified, brother Bystander.
IMO, you are inadvertantly accomplishing what you are ashamed and disgraced by doing. You are magnifying, clearly showing, the truth we others are speaking. You are demonstrating to the anonymous readers that you and your like-minded posters will use whatever low tactics it takes to try to divert the attention of truth seekers from the truth. It is not working out as you planned. The truth is being exposed.


As usual, PB your bewilderment is getting in the way of your sense. I wasn't referring to the Barbra topic, I was referring to the 3abn Saga as a whole.

No sorry, we aren't. It is junk like the "unauthorized Version" (which says it all, btw) and all the other lies in print as well as the cruel and needless who am I game by sister that is filled with false statements and accusations. BTW, I believe you participated in the nasty little game didn't you dear? you weren't too bewildered to do that. Again, a unveiling of your facade. When you tell the truth about the viciousness of those on your side and some of their inexcusable post, you might carry a little more credibility here, but until you do one must ascertain that you are indeed, not peaceful or bewildered, or, searching for truth.
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****Ok that's it! I've had enough! Thread closed! Barbara please PM Calvin, Clay or myself when you are ready to post here again. We will reopen it again then*****

*****Bystander,Cindy see ya Monday! Lee you are just one wrong word away from the fate of your friends*****


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*****This topic is now reopened. I trust that all who have no interest in encourageing and being encouraged will not post to this thread. ALL violators will be susupended or banned, depending on the offense.*****


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A great many people believe they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.-- William James

It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.- Mark Twain
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QUOTE(princessdi @ Mar 18 2007, 02:43 PM) [snapback]186214[/snapback]

*****This topic is now reopened. I trust that all who have no interest in encourageing and being encouraged will not post to this thread. ALL violators will be susupended or banned, depending on the offense.*****





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Hi Barb,

we await your latest update. What just happened to change your plans in just the last two hours?
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QUOTE(justme @ Mar 18 2007, 04:04 PM) [snapback]186253[/snapback]

Hi Barb,

we await your latest update. What just happened to change your plans in just the last two hours?



....and why you're having to keep your chin up.... sad.gif
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QUOTE(justme @ Mar 18 2007, 05:04 PM) [snapback]186253[/snapback]

Hi Barb,

we await your latest update.

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please.gif Come visit us again.
hug.gif We love and miss you.

We LOVE reading about your experiences and your beautiful walks. We need to hear from you that all is ok. dunno.gif

Rosyroi (cyber giving you a beautiful long stemmed Rose -can't find a rose emoticon so use your imagination)


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If they're not killed through abortion, he wants them neglected or abused physically, emotionally, sexually...One way or another, the legions of hell want to destroy children because children become the future adults and leaders. If they (legions) can warp or wound a child, he or she becomes a warped or wounded adult who passes on this affliction to the next generation". -Terry Randall in TIME Magazine, October 21, 1991
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QUOTE(Bystander @ Mar 9 2007, 11:12 PM) [snapback]184224[/snapback]

This is just a taste of what is to come when the whole world turns on us for what we believe. In the meantime, I will continue to stand for what I know is truth.


From where do you know the truth?

QUOTE(justme @ Mar 19 2007, 12:04 AM) [snapback]186253[/snapback]

Hi Barb,

we await your latest update. What just happened to change your plans in just the last two hours?


We sure do, Barb.


QUOTE(Rosyroi @ Mar 19 2007, 06:46 AM) [snapback]186324[/snapback]

please.gif Come visit us again.
hug.gif We love and miss you.

We LOVE reading about your experiences and your beautiful walks. We need to hear from you that all is ok. dunno.gif

Rosyroi (cyber giving you a beautiful long stemmed Rose -can't find a rose emoticon so use your imagination)

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QUOTE(Jnana15 @ Mar 18 2007, 10:23 PM) [snapback]186220[/snapback]

Thank you princissdi thankyou.gif

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QUOTE(princessdi @ Mar 18 2007, 09:43 PM) [snapback]186214[/snapback]

*****This topic is now reopened. I trust that all who have no interest in encourageing and being encouraged will not post to this thread. ALL violators will be susupended or banned, depending on the offense.*****

yes.gif


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"The truth can lose nothing by close investigation". (1888 Materials 38)





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