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> Corporate "worship" At 3abn, The Shelton Gang Rides Again!
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post Feb 14 2007, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE(PeacefullyBewildered @ Feb 14 2007, 05:20 PM) [snapback]178320[/snapback]

Soul,
Bystander made a veiled threat to husbandoftheyear (HOTY) yesterday, making it seem like he was on the trail to finding out which 3abn employee he actually is.
http://www.blacksda.com/forums/index.php?s...mp;#entry178127
I sure do hope that Danny, et. al., will read this and take it to heart!


I know for a fact that Danny reads here every day, at least that is what he said (not at the corporate worship service).

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post Feb 14 2007, 06:38 PM
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Have you heard about the "deeply spiritual" worship that took place today at 3abn and how the master himself actually CAME TO WORSHIP??? He does not go to the weekly worship you know...but he did today!!! And with vengeance!!

"Dan did worship today and it was all about how he is going after "Linda and her team." He also said that he's bringing charges against the employees that post on BSDA. It was over an hour and was all about the scandals going on. Dan said that charges had already been filed. He said he was going after Linda and those that post in her favor. Then to close it all, John Lomacang said a prayer that was basically a warning against people speaking out. He said charges were filed against Linda's team and others who support her and post on this site. He didn't name names, but he did say "I'm going after Linda." He did say that someone is giving them (Linda's team) information and are always one step ahead.

I know that if the employees didn't know something was up, they do now. Everyone was talking and a few friends were saying how administration is furious."

I was not there, but I have been at worship services held just before work at one of our colleges. Before I comment any farther, I want to make it clear that I have never seen nor heard of a worship service such as was described above. It goes against ethical standards that should be part of any work environment. From what I have seen, most workers are dedicated to their task and are willing to do everything in their power to make the organization prosper.

When we work in a Christian environment, sometimes the lines get blurred between our work and our loyalty to God. This can be a real pitfall.

Discussions of work related issues should be done in a meeting separate from worship. If the two are combined, as we saw in this case, a person can almost feel that he is giving up his loyalty to God and to his Church if he has questions about the work environment.

I am never happy when a prayer is more than a prayer. When it contains an agenda to sway an individual's thinking regarding secular matters, it is politicking rather than praying. When a respected pastor crosses this ethical boundary, listeners are further confused in their loyalties.




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post Feb 14 2007, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(Ralph @ Feb 14 2007, 05:38 PM) [snapback]178347[/snapback]

I was not there, but I have been at worship services held just before work at one of our colleges. Before I comment any farther, I want to make it clear that I have never seen nor heard of a worship service such as was described above. It goes against ethical standards that should be part of any work environment. From what I have seen, most workers are dedicated to their task and are willing to do everything in their power to make the organization prosper.

When we work in a Christian environment, sometimes the lines get blurred between our work and our loyalty to God. This can be a real pitfall.

Discussions of work related issues should be done in a meeting separate from worship. If the two are combined, as we saw in this case, a person can almost feel that he is giving up his loyalty to God and to his Church if he has questions about the work environment.

I am never happy when a prayer is more than a prayer. When it contains an agenda to sway an individual's thinking regarding secular matters, it is politicking rather than praying. When a respected pastor crosses this ethical boundary, listeners are further confused in their loyalties.

These are great points, Ralph.


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QUOTE(sister @ Feb 14 2007, 04:48 PM) [snapback]178345[/snapback]

I know for a fact that Danny reads here every day, at least that is what he said (not at the corporate worship service).


Sister, unless you are sitting beside him in front of his computer you would NOT know it for a fact. You should quit throwing your "facts" around so loosely. The "fact" is, he made a promise a awhile back not to waste time on sites like this, where everybody has their mind made up (based on nothing) and they aren't going to change it. He and 3abn has a huge work to do and they go about the business of doing it. Certainly people tell him things or email him about all the gossip and slander on these sites, but, just like Linda, (you here, say) he doesn't read it himself.
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QUOTE(Bystander @ Feb 14 2007, 08:05 PM) [snapback]178350[/snapback]

Sister, unless you are sitting beside him in front of his computer you would NOT know it for a fact. You should quit throwing your "facts" around so loosely. The "fact" is, he made a promise a awhile back not to waste time on sites like this, where everybody has their mind made up (based on nothing) and they aren't going to change it. He and 3abn has a huge work to do and they go about the business of doing it. Certainly people tell him things or email him about all the gossip and slander on these sites, but, just like Linda, (you here, say) he doesn't read it himself.

And just like you made the same promise and keep showing up here every day...

I think you can do the math from there.

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QUOTE(sister @ Feb 14 2007, 04:48 PM) [snapback]178345[/snapback]

I know for a fact that Danny reads here every day, at least that is what he said (not at the corporate worship service).

Sister,
Bystander seems to be challenging you on this point. Can you elaborate as to how you know that Danny reads here every day?

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I began this thread with the following and it has wandered off topic in numerous directions and it is time to go back to the original post.
Later on I gave my opinion of John Lomacang in regard to this Corporate "worship" session and asked for the opinions of others.
What about the character of Danny Shelton? This is the individual that 3ABN spokespeople tout as a prophet of God. Re-read the original post, are these the actions of a prophet? Is this private view behind the scenes of 3ABN coinciding with the public persona presented on the Thursday night "live" programs? Tomorrow there is another two hour "Behind the Scenes" program on 3ABN, it would be interesting to compare the on camera comments with those posted above.

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Why do you keep posting that same post over and over. Especially after it was pointed out to you and others that Danny DID NOT say he was going after Linda and "Linda's team. I think even HOTY will tell you that if you ask him straight out. So, that being the case, don't you think you need to delete the part that is not truth instead of continuing to spread something that is false?
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QUOTE(Bystander @ Feb 14 2007, 05:05 PM) [snapback]178350[/snapback]

Sister, unless you are sitting beside him in front of his computer you would NOT know it for a fact. You should quit throwing your "facts" around so loosely. The "fact" is, he made a promise a awhile back not to waste time on sites like this, where everybody has their mind made up (based on nothing) and they aren't going to change it. He and 3abn has a huge work to do and they go about the business of doing it. Certainly people tell him things or email him about all the gossip and slander on these sites, but, just like Linda, (you here, say) he doesn't read it himself.



ahh, but someone on the inside is telling oh him....he should be more careful maybe... dunno.gif


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QUOTE(Bystander @ Feb 14 2007, 06:05 PM) [snapback]178350[/snapback]

Sister, unless you are sitting beside him in front of his computer you would NOT know it for a fact. You should quit throwing your "facts" around so loosely. The "fact" is, he made a promise a awhile back not to waste time on sites like this, where everybody has their mind made up (based on nothing) and they aren't going to change it. He and 3abn has a huge work to do and they go about the business of doing it. Certainly people tell him things or email him about all the gossip and slander on these sites, but, just like Linda, (you here, say) he doesn't read it himself.

Bystander,
Are you going to be accompanying the 3abn folks to the rally this weekend at Milpitas, CA? It is a couple of hours drive away from me but I would certainly consider trying to attend if you are going to be there.

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QUOTE(Bystander @ Feb 14 2007, 08:05 PM) [snapback]178350[/snapback]

Sister, unless you are sitting beside him in front of his computer you would NOT know it for a fact. You should quit throwing your "facts" around so loosely. The "fact" is, he made a promise a awhile back not to waste time on sites like this, where everybody has their mind made up (based on nothing) and they aren't going to change it. He and 3abn has a huge work to do and they go about the business of doing it. Certainly people tell him things or email him about all the gossip and slander on these sites, but, just like Linda, (you here, say) he doesn't read it himself.


Bystander, I didn't say that I was sitting beside Danny in front of his computer, nor did I say I was sitting in his lap, or have him under electronic surveillance. I said it is what Danny said! You do BELIEVE the word of the great Danny Shelton, right? Get real, Bystander, everyone who knows Danny, knows that his mouth runs full throttle ALL the time. Ask Melody if you don't believe me. Wow, maybe you should even try his grandkids, I am sure he has even told them by now.

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QUOTE(awesumtenor @ Feb 14 2007, 07:09 PM) [snapback]178351[/snapback]

And just like you made the same promise and keep showing up here every day...

I think you can do the math from there.

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yep..... maybe Danny also changed his mind.... dunno.gif


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E'rybody knows that Danny is on here daily...and when he can't get to a compudah - one of his minions does it for him....
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Minions -
min·ion (mĭn'yən)
n.
1. An obsequious follower or dependent; a sycophant.
2. A subordinate official, especially a servile one.
3. One who is highly esteemed or favored; a darling.

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QUOTE(Bystander @ Feb 14 2007, 06:10 PM) [snapback]178353[/snapback]

Why do you keep posting that same post over and over. Especially after it was pointed out to you and others that Danny DID NOT say he was going after Linda and "Linda's team. I think even HOTY will tell you that if you ask him straight out. So, that being the case, don't you think you need to delete the part that is not truth instead of continuing to spread something that is false?

Maybe Danny could provide you with a corrected version for us.

I believe you would agree on a couple points.
1. Danny was not happy and let that be known in clearest terms.
2. To close it all, John Lomacang said a prayer that was basically a warning against people speaking out.

What an eggnog! An implied threat of being fired made by Danny all scrambled up with John Lomacang's warning that was embedded in a prayer.

It makes me wonder if both of them are afraid that another victim may speak out.




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QUOTE(Bystander @ Feb 14 2007, 05:10 PM) [snapback]178353[/snapback]

Why do you keep posting that same post over and over. Especially after it was pointed out to you and others that Danny DID NOT say he was going after Linda and "Linda's team. I think even HOTY will tell you that if you ask him straight out. So, that being the case, don't you think you need to delete the part that is not truth instead of continuing to spread something that is false?



It hard to delete some thing that was told you to by more then one witness of this "worship" and verified with others who also heard it. And, don't forget, it was also heard from the hallways after worship too as it was repeated to others what they missed inside.

Maybe you would like to tell us your version of what you heard at this worship since you were there?


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QUOTE(Ralph @ Feb 14 2007, 10:25 PM) [snapback]178374[/snapback]

Maybe Danny could provide you with a corrected version for us.




I agree that instead of merely posting a denial of what has been reported was said, could someone please tell us what they believe was said if they disagree with other statements here and how they obtained their knowledge.

I am willing to keep an open mind on issues as training and experience have taught me everything can be spun or hidden with the right words.

I would respectfully point out that ignoring this call for accountability only lends credence to those who have given their version of what was said.

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